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    <title>topic Maneira correta de mapear redundâncias in Brasil</title>
    <link>https://community.qlik.com/t5/Brasil/Maneira-correta-de-mapear-redund%C3%A2ncias/m-p/74943#M4005</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Pessoal, eu estou aprendendo sobre o qlik e estou ficando incomodado com alguns conceitos (mapeamento não-redundante / chave sintética ) que são novos para mim no contexto do qlik.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;fiz outra thread ontem e alguns colegas já me ajudaram na solução. mas continuo desconfortável com o resultado obtido.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;H2&gt;&lt;/H2&gt;&lt;H2&gt;Situação atual&lt;/H2&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Preciso mapear estas duas entidades no qlik:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG alt="m1.png" class="jive-image image-1" src="https://community.qlik.com/legacyfs/online/197233_m1.png" style="height: auto;" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Eu segui as orientações dos colegas e consegui fazer isso de duas maneiras:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;H2&gt;Maneira 1: Importando a tabela users duas vezes mas com nomes distintos.&lt;/H2&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG alt="m2.png" class="jive-image image-2" src="https://community.qlik.com/legacyfs/online/197255_m2.png" style="height: 210px; width: 620px;" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;H3&gt;Resultado: Funciona! Mas com isso estou repetindo os dados da tabela users duas vezes. &lt;/H3&gt;&lt;P&gt;Isso é certo? sempre devo seguir este tipo de solução?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;O script utilizado foi o seguinte:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;PRE __default_attr="sql" __jive_macro_name="code" class="jive_macro_code _jivemacro_uid_15217592578719347 jive_text_macro" jivemacro_uid="_15217592578719347" modifiedtitle="true"&gt;
&lt;P&gt;LOAD id as issue_author_id, &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;login as issue_users_authors_login,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; firstname as issue_users_authors_firstname,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; lastname as issue_users_authors_lastname,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;status as issue_users_authors_status;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;[issue_users_authors]:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;SELECT "id", &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;"login", &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; "firstname",&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; "lastname",&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;"status" &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;FROM "public"."users" WHERE status = '1' ; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;LOAD id as issue_assigned_to_id, &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;login as issue_users_assigned_login,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; firstname as issue_users_assigned_firstname,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; lastname as issue_users_assigned_lastname,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;status as issue_users_assigned_status;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;[issue_users_assigned]:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;SELECT "id", &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;"login", &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; "firstname",&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; "lastname",&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;"status" &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;FROM "public"."users" WHERE status = '1' ; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;/PRE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 20px; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Maneira 2: Importando a tabela users com a coluna id duplicada e alias distintos.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG alt="m3.png" class="jive-image image-3" src="https://community.qlik.com/legacyfs/online/197256_m3.png" style="height: 384px; width: 620px;" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;H3&gt;Resultado: Funciona! Mas com isso utilizando as chaves sintéticas anonimas.&lt;/H3&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Aqui o problema é que o próprio tutorial do qlik fala para sempre que possível evitar utiliza-las, pois no logo prazo com o crescimento do volume de dados isso vai impactar na performance.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG alt="m4.png" class="image-4 jive-image" src="https://community.qlik.com/legacyfs/online/197257_m4.png" style="height: 191px; width: 620px;" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Fonte: Arquivo: Tutorial - Scripting for Beginners.PDF, page 30, september 2017 version&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Aqui esta o código utilizado:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;PRE __default_attr="sql" __jive_macro_name="code" class="jive_macro_code jive_text_macro _jivemacro_uid_15217593566174572" jivemacro_uid="_15217593566174572"&gt;
&lt;P&gt;LOAD id as issue_assigned_to_id, &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;id as issue_author_id,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;login as users_login,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; firstname as users_firstname,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; lastname as users_lastname,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;status as users_status;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;[issue_users_assigned]:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;SELECT "id",&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;"id",&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;"login", &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; "firstname",&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; "lastname",&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;"status" &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;FROM "public"."users" WHERE status = '1' ;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;/PRE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 20px; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Enfim, qual é o modelo mais assertivo de se trabalhar?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Como vocês viram acima a questão aqui não é mais apenas resolver a situação e sim entender qual é a melhor ou a maneira mais recomendada de se resolver esta situação.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Gostaria muito de saber a opinião de vocês. Obrigado.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2018 23:05:20 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>jhonatan_morais</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2018-03-22T23:05:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Maneira correta de mapear redundâncias</title>
      <link>https://community.qlik.com/t5/Brasil/Maneira-correta-de-mapear-redund%C3%A2ncias/m-p/74943#M4005</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Pessoal, eu estou aprendendo sobre o qlik e estou ficando incomodado com alguns conceitos (mapeamento não-redundante / chave sintética ) que são novos para mim no contexto do qlik.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;fiz outra thread ontem e alguns colegas já me ajudaram na solução. mas continuo desconfortável com o resultado obtido.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;H2&gt;&lt;/H2&gt;&lt;H2&gt;Situação atual&lt;/H2&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Preciso mapear estas duas entidades no qlik:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG alt="m1.png" class="jive-image image-1" src="https://community.qlik.com/legacyfs/online/197233_m1.png" style="height: auto;" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Eu segui as orientações dos colegas e consegui fazer isso de duas maneiras:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;H2&gt;Maneira 1: Importando a tabela users duas vezes mas com nomes distintos.&lt;/H2&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG alt="m2.png" class="jive-image image-2" src="https://community.qlik.com/legacyfs/online/197255_m2.png" style="height: 210px; width: 620px;" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;H3&gt;Resultado: Funciona! Mas com isso estou repetindo os dados da tabela users duas vezes. &lt;/H3&gt;&lt;P&gt;Isso é certo? sempre devo seguir este tipo de solução?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;O script utilizado foi o seguinte:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;PRE __default_attr="sql" __jive_macro_name="code" class="jive_macro_code _jivemacro_uid_15217592578719347 jive_text_macro" jivemacro_uid="_15217592578719347" modifiedtitle="true"&gt;
&lt;P&gt;LOAD id as issue_author_id, &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;login as issue_users_authors_login,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; firstname as issue_users_authors_firstname,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; lastname as issue_users_authors_lastname,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;status as issue_users_authors_status;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;[issue_users_authors]:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;SELECT "id", &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;"login", &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; "firstname",&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; "lastname",&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;"status" &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;FROM "public"."users" WHERE status = '1' ; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;LOAD id as issue_assigned_to_id, &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;login as issue_users_assigned_login,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; firstname as issue_users_assigned_firstname,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; lastname as issue_users_assigned_lastname,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;status as issue_users_assigned_status;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;[issue_users_assigned]:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;SELECT "id", &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;"login", &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; "firstname",&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; "lastname",&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;"status" &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;FROM "public"."users" WHERE status = '1' ; &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;/PRE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 20px; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Maneira 2: Importando a tabela users com a coluna id duplicada e alias distintos.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG alt="m3.png" class="jive-image image-3" src="https://community.qlik.com/legacyfs/online/197256_m3.png" style="height: 384px; width: 620px;" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;H3&gt;Resultado: Funciona! Mas com isso utilizando as chaves sintéticas anonimas.&lt;/H3&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Aqui o problema é que o próprio tutorial do qlik fala para sempre que possível evitar utiliza-las, pois no logo prazo com o crescimento do volume de dados isso vai impactar na performance.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG alt="m4.png" class="image-4 jive-image" src="https://community.qlik.com/legacyfs/online/197257_m4.png" style="height: 191px; width: 620px;" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Fonte: Arquivo: Tutorial - Scripting for Beginners.PDF, page 30, september 2017 version&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Aqui esta o código utilizado:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;PRE __default_attr="sql" __jive_macro_name="code" class="jive_macro_code jive_text_macro _jivemacro_uid_15217593566174572" jivemacro_uid="_15217593566174572"&gt;
&lt;P&gt;LOAD id as issue_assigned_to_id, &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;id as issue_author_id,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;login as users_login,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; firstname as users_firstname,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; lastname as users_lastname,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;status as users_status;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;[issue_users_assigned]:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;SELECT "id",&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;"id",&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;"login", &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; "firstname",&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; "lastname",&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;"status" &lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;FROM "public"."users" WHERE status = '1' ;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;/PRE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 20px; font-weight: bold;"&gt;Enfim, qual é o modelo mais assertivo de se trabalhar?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Como vocês viram acima a questão aqui não é mais apenas resolver a situação e sim entender qual é a melhor ou a maneira mais recomendada de se resolver esta situação.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Gostaria muito de saber a opinião de vocês. Obrigado.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2018 23:05:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qlik.com/t5/Brasil/Maneira-correta-de-mapear-redund%C3%A2ncias/m-p/74943#M4005</guid>
      <dc:creator>jhonatan_morais</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-03-22T23:05:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Maneira correta de mapear redundâncias</title>
      <link>https://community.qlik.com/t5/Brasil/Maneira-correta-de-mapear-redund%C3%A2ncias/m-p/74944#M4006</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Olá Jhonatan,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Acredito que sua dúvida não é sobre o Qlik, mas sim sobre Modelagem Dimensional x Relacional. Bem, seguindo o star schema, temos uma tabela fato, onde ligamos as dimensões.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A tabela fato é a Issues, que deve ser ligada às duas dimensões, a Authors e a Assigned. Se vc replicar o modelo relacional no modelo dimensional, vc não terá performance de cálculo nem poderá responder alguns questionamentos como "Quem são os Assigned que mais resolveram Issues de um Author?" ou vice-versa.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Com isso, a Maneira 1 está correta. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;O Qlik ainda implementa umas coisas a mais, mas a modelagem dimensional é fundamental.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Abs,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2018 01:34:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qlik.com/t5/Brasil/Maneira-correta-de-mapear-redund%C3%A2ncias/m-p/74944#M4006</guid>
      <dc:creator>pedrobergo</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-03-23T01:34:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Maneira correta de mapear redundâncias</title>
      <link>https://community.qlik.com/t5/Brasil/Maneira-correta-de-mapear-redund%C3%A2ncias/m-p/74945#M4007</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Obrigado pela confirmação Pedro, você que já tem experi^dencia, recomenda algum site/material para melhorar meu entendimento de modelagem dimensional?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 02:33:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qlik.com/t5/Brasil/Maneira-correta-de-mapear-redund%C3%A2ncias/m-p/74945#M4007</guid>
      <dc:creator>jhonatan_morais</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-03-24T02:33:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Maneira correta de mapear redundâncias</title>
      <link>https://community.qlik.com/t5/Brasil/Maneira-correta-de-mapear-redund%C3%A2ncias/m-p/74946#M4008</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Jhonatan,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Nesse sentido sugiro:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Help da Qlik: &lt;A href="https://help.qlik.com/pt-BR/sense/September2017/Subsystems/Hub/Content/DataModeling/best-practices-data-modeling.htm" title="https://help.qlik.com/pt-BR/sense/September2017/Subsystems/Hub/Content/DataModeling/best-practices-data-modeling.htmdelagem"&gt;Boas Práticas de Modelagem&lt;/A&gt;‌&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Materiais do HIC, como por exemplo: &lt;A href="https://community.qlik.com/qlik-blogpost/2739"&gt;To Join or not to Join&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Além do material anexo.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Abs e Sucesso!!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 11:50:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qlik.com/t5/Brasil/Maneira-correta-de-mapear-redund%C3%A2ncias/m-p/74946#M4008</guid>
      <dc:creator>Thiago_Justen_</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-03-24T11:50:53Z</dc:date>
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