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More frequent scheduled App reloads on Qlik Sense SaaS: more than once per hour

Ron_van_Rooij — Tue, 18 Aug 2020 13:33:43 GMT

Challenge in Qlik Sense SaaS
In Qlik Sense SaaS, we can only select 'hourly' as smallest refresh schedule for an App. Not every 30 minutes. Not every 10 minutes. See attached screenshot.

Description of idea
To have the possibility to set the reload schedule for an app as "every X minutes".

This functionality was available in QlikView QMC. Not anymore in Qlik Sense SaaS.

Value proposition
Some apps are looked at multiple times a day by end users, e.g. apps that display *today's* sale performance for online shops. An hourly refresh is not frequent enough to detect possible issues early, during the day. Or to do daily management activities. The users would require the sales data to flow in Qlik app every 30 minutes to have a good grip on their business.

Additional context
If this feature would risk taking too much Cloud CPU/Memory, then the Qlik SaaS could 'assess' the resources required for the app reload first. If an app would reload very quickly, then Qlik SaaS should allow for a refresh schedule "every X minutes". If not, then the option would be greyed out and user first needs to optimize the app.

Re: More frequent scheduled App reloads on Qlik Sense SaaS: more than once per hour

sfbi — Thu, 03 Dec 2020 13:20:49 GMT

agreed!

Re: More frequent scheduled App reloads on Qlik Sense SaaS: more than once per hour

chrisbrain — Tue, 08 Dec 2020 13:39:24 GMT

Agree 👍

Re: More frequent scheduled App reloads on Qlik Sense SaaS: more than once per hour - Status changed to: Open - On Roadmap

Thomas_Hopp — Tue, 02 Feb 2021 18:24:00 GMT

Hi @Ron_van_Rooij

coming back to your idea from last year. This is certainly something we do want to add as a capability. I can't give you a date for it but it is on our roadmap and we are planning to work on it rather sooner than later.

And overall, there is much more to come for a better schedule management this year. Stay tuned ...

Let me know if you have further questions,

Thomas

Re: More frequent scheduled App reloads on Qlik Sense SaaS: more than once per hour

sfbi — Thu, 25 Feb 2021 12:48:03 GMT

nice!

Re: More frequent scheduled App reloads on Qlik Sense SaaS: more than once per hour

mattlc — Wed, 21 Apr 2021 10:11:49 GMT

Agreed, this is very frustrating as we have no real time data. every hour is not good enough in our business

Re: More frequent scheduled App reloads on Qlik Sense SaaS: more than once per hour

AndrewMcIlwrick — Wed, 21 Apr 2021 13:03:16 GMT

Large feature gap

Re: More frequent scheduled App reloads on Qlik Sense SaaS: more than once per hour

CHansford — Wed, 19 May 2021 09:15:42 GMT

Folks, I asked for this last year as I need a scheduled reload every 15 minutes to align with the telemetry updates.

Posted Re: QSB - Scheduling same as QSE - Status changed to: Open - Collecting Feedback on Suggest an Idea. ‎15-12-2020 01:30 PM

@Thomas_Hopp can you combine this suggestion and that of @Ron_van_Rooij as effectively they are the same request, just mine was done at a time before Qlik SaaS became Qlik SaaS or change both status to be Open - On Roadmap.

Regards

Chris

Re: More frequent scheduled App reloads on Qlik Sense SaaS: more than once per hour

Peter-Lawlor — Wed, 19 May 2021 08:32:00 GMT

I am surprised to see that this is not high priority. There are some light weight apps I have and I need to leave them on-prem, because of this. Little disappointed, as SaaS is not ne to Qlik and everyone wants to move off-prem, but this gap is way too large. If this is on a roadmap, ten there is an estimated delivery dat?

Re: More frequent scheduled App reloads on Qlik Sense SaaS: more than once per hour

sfbi — Fri, 21 May 2021 12:44:34 GMT

yes... not every app have tons of bytes to be reloaded...

Re: More frequent scheduled App reloads on Qlik Sense SaaS: more than once per hour

Peter-Lawlor — Thu, 10 Jun 2021 09:12:29 GMT

So, I found the best way around this (hack) was to have qlik Transfer app installed on another VM and then setup the data folder connection. I setup a small job to run every 5-10 min on QMC console on prem to export a qvd with last refresh date in it. In QlikTransfer you can then setup to point at that folder and on synce, refresh specific apps.

So now every 10 min I have a qvd with nothing interesting generated, Qlik Transfer sees it in the set folder, then copies it across and on complete, it refreshes the items I identified with the check box.

Fairly easy once you setup Qlik Transfer and a separate VM for it (as it conflicts with Qlik if on the same server). Would still expect it as part of the SaaS package, but this works

Re: More frequent scheduled App reloads on Qlik Sense SaaS: more than once per hour

CHansford — Thu, 10 Jun 2021 09:31:20 GMT

@Peter-Lawlor what a great use of the tech, especially as I have all the necessary VMs and QDT in place to carry this out. However it really shouldn't be necessary, if its possible in Client Managed Qlik Sense then it isn't beyond the wit of clever Qlik folk to be able to achieve the same in SaaS or is this a great way to throttle utilisation on the Cloud backend by reducing how often you can schedule a reload?

@Thomas_Hopp Have you combined this thread with my ask yet?

Re: More frequent scheduled App reloads on Qlik Sense SaaS: more than once per hour

matthewjbryant — Fri, 11 Jun 2021 13:14:16 GMT

@Peter-Lawlor Great idea. How're you finding Qlik Data Transfer? I'm finding it a little light on features right now, and isn't as reliable as I'd like.

@CHansford It looks like your suggestion hasn't gained the traction this one has, so combining may not do anything. At least this is on the Roadmap now.

Re: More frequent scheduled App reloads on Qlik Sense SaaS: more than once per hour

MartijnWanders — Mon, 21 Jun 2021 09:15:30 GMT

Great idea and have the same thought. Refresh minimal one hour isn't sufficient for some insights. Big gap..... with the not SaaS editions from Qlik.

Re: More frequent scheduled App reloads on Qlik Sense SaaS: more than once per hour

Peter-Lawlor — Mon, 21 Jun 2021 11:06:11 GMT

@matthewjbryant I am finding suitable to do what I need. I have not really needed it to anything more yet. although, I have noticed that you need to be careful of refresh timings, as when there is a QVD being updated / Saved - you maybe trying to upload it and there seems to be an error handling it. Not sure yet, but on occasions, I need to restart the service and may or not be related. On my list of things to check for root cause.

Glad it helps people!

Re: More frequent scheduled App reloads on Qlik Sense SaaS: more than once per hour

matthewjbryant — Mon, 21 Jun 2021 12:24:01 GMT

@Peter-Lawlor I've had QDT monitoring 5 minute QVD stores (one triggering a Qlik Sense SaaS app reload). For the most part it's been good, but I've had occasions where monitoring would stop and not start again. The logs don't show any knowledge of files being changed. This has only happened with network folders so far, so I'm testing now with only local folders on the QDT server.

Re: More frequent scheduled App reloads on Qlik Sense SaaS: more than once per hour

jjdench — Wed, 01 Sep 2021 13:43:01 GMT

Hi @Thomas_Hopp any idea how far away the improved scheduling management will be on the roadmap ? Thanks

Justin

Re: More frequent scheduled App reloads on Qlik Sense SaaS: more than once per hour

Thomas_Hopp — Mon, 27 Sep 2021 14:45:12 GMT

Hi @jjdench and everyone in the thread. As I mentioned it earlier in the year, there will be updates on what you can do when it comes to scheduling Qlik Sense Apps (and more). With the upcoming release of Qlik Application Automation (https://www.qlik.com/us/products/blendr-io) you will be able to organise your schedules even as task chains. Besides from that, the reload API does support a more frequent cadence comparing with what you can do by default in the Hub.

//Thomas

Re: More frequent scheduled App reloads on Qlik Sense SaaS: more than once per hour

scottduthie — Thu, 28 Oct 2021 19:11:21 GMT

For long time users of Qlik, having to use the Application Automation module to create task chains might feel a little cumbersome (as the traditional QMC made this extremely easy), however once you get the hang of it the process is pretty simple and repetitive.

The real power lies far beyond task chaining within the Qlik tenant - you can trigger workflows and actions based off a huge range of integrations with external platforms.

Here's a quick summary from Qlik on task chaning: https://help.qlik.com/sv-SE/cloud-services/Subsystems/ApplicationAutomation/Content/tutorials/task-chaining.htm

This video offers a good intro too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ycYndC_PXs

For any assistance contact scott@pomerolpartners.com

Re: More frequent scheduled App reloads on Qlik Sense SaaS: more than once per hour

aritting — Thu, 07 Apr 2022 13:47:37 GMT

QlikView and Qlik Sense Enterprise have this feature and it can't be missing in the SaaS