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Variables

AndrewMcIlwrick — Wed, 25 Nov 2020 15:38:50 GMT

1. Add a sort ascending/descending capability to the Sense Overview.

2. Add search capability to the same.

3. Fix the dreadful - click Edit to save - really !? Edit means edit not save.

4. Flag which variables created in script editor were done with SET or LET.

5. Flag which variables are used in the app with a simple Y/N flag icon.

Re: Variables

greg-anderson — Sun, 10 Nov 2019 19:25:12 GMT

As someone who makes extensive use of variables, including a collection of 'system' variables living in a central location, I cannot applaud the idea of #5 enough in both Sense and View.

Variable management is ripe for improvement, though I understand that 'new and improved handling of variables' probably isn't going to close any additional sales.

Re: Variables

AndrewMcIlwrick — Sun, 10 Nov 2019 20:36:52 GMT

Sales are not always the primary consideration imo 😉

Tool adoption and negative aspects highlighted during training and presales demos are equally important imo.

When Nebula and open source access to Sense visualisations arrives maybe Qlik can let the developer community gain access to not just core visualisations but also the code behind the Sense desktop and enterprise client portal ?

Re: Variables

Oleg_Troyansky — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 17:40:04 GMT

A better variable overview in Qlik Sense is long overdue, in my opinion. What we currently have is a joke.

In addition to the suggested features (all great ideas!), Id' suggest:

- Mass search/replace of text within the variables

- Mass delete of Variables

- Mass Export into a text file - invaluable for a very common task of externalizing expressions stored in variables

- Simple "where used" information - not just a flag, but a list of objects that use the variable.

Re: Variables

juraj_misina — Mon, 11 Nov 2019 19:57:39 GMT

Search and replace within variables, oh my! I'd by quite a few drinks to a developer who would implement this.

Re: Variables

WiscoSippi — Wed, 13 Nov 2019 17:05:50 GMT

Variable management is my single biggest developer pain point right now. The ability to import & export variables and their contents would be huge as would search. Separating script load variables versus created in-app would be nice too.

Re: Variables

AndrewMcIlwrick — Thu, 14 Nov 2019 17:22:14 GMT

Thanks for all the value-adds. So how can we as a group ( especially luminaries ) get basic requirements in front of Qlik R&D, and then have a discussion on the why - for prioritization ?

Re: Variables

Oleg_Troyansky — Thu, 14 Nov 2019 22:15:07 GMT

So, what had happened with the previous wish list of requirements? I recall some great collaboration and prioritization. Was is presented to Qlik R&D in any shape or form?

Re: Variables

AndrewMcIlwrick — Fri, 15 Nov 2019 18:07:28 GMT

I beleive someone in the group did so at Qonnections. This topic came up in Lund - the channel between luminaries and R&D needs reviewed, and hopefully formalized. @GillianFarquhar any ideas on this ? HiC is visiting Scotland in a few weeks. Brian, myself and George can discuss this with him and update via Qommunity ?

Re: Variables

GillianFarquhar — Fri, 15 Nov 2019 20:05:54 GMT

Qlik will be launching an official Ideation capability that will open up the discussion from the user community to R&D directly through Qlik Community. The plan is early 2020.

I think that may be the most scalable way to address official feedback to R&D.

I am open to ideas but it needs to be something that is governed and not too taxing from an administrative perspective.

Re: Variables

AndrewMcIlwrick — Sat, 16 Nov 2019 17:55:31 GMT

Sounds a really positive move. I guess any such channel requires moderation. Out in the world contributions may be technically impossible, add no value or even worse could be intended to have malicious intent ! Can luminaries be a moderator ? Or if not, van we get advance view of this facility and maybe give advice before it goes public ? Thank you !

Re: Variables

bernice_gonzale — Fri, 13 Dec 2019 11:46:29 GMT

When Import variables from excel, the variable are create a lock for future Edition (This is good)
But, if the file is not present in the directory. The variables gets enable for Edition (What is bad). I don't want the end users to Edit the content of the variables.

Re: Variables

AndrewMcIlwrick — Sat, 14 Dec 2019 07:29:02 GMT

Sorry - don't fully understand. Why would a user be given access to edit such a file ? Imo all configuration files should be a) only available to specified users via a data connection and b) versioned in GIT.

Re: Variables

bernice_gonzale — Mon, 27 Jan 2020 14:21:09 GMT

Sorry I didn't explain the scenario.

We've defined all the variables in an excel file.
In Dev mode, if the file is present (exist) in the Directory, the variables is LOCKED for edition. That mean, the only way to edit the variables is editing the file.
When we deliver the application to a customer, we don't want to deliver the Variable File, because we don't want them to see or change the content. But, by doing this, the Variables change to be Editable. (We don't want this).

The question is: how can we do, to import the variables from a source that is not visible to the end user and the variables stay locked for edition.

Thank you

Re: Variables

greg-anderson — Mon, 27 Jan 2020 14:32:51 GMT

QlikView and Qlik Sense each have a series of variables that control how the product operates (as does pretty much every other software product in existence).

The best solution here would be a simple extension of the current mechanism to support system-level variables defined by the administrator. Qlik could even package a default set of useful variables for items like data storage root(s).

They have all of the pieces. Just add some basic UI to allow ease of viewing/configuration/maintenance of what effectively becomes a small set of user-defined decodes.

I've done this via text files for admin-level work (because they were part of a load script) and Excel for application-level variables (for other reasons).

That would help, but "not visible to the end user" depends on files' access control. Someone already mentioned Github, which is good because you cannot 100% protect anything. Do what you can, and design a system that can recover from the rest.

I'm sure there are developers and security experts who would have better ideas.

Re: Variables - Status changed to: Open - Collecting Feedback

Patric_Nordstrom — Tue, 21 Apr 2020 09:06:00 GMT

Thank you all for your feedback on ways to improve our product. While this is something we understand would be useful, it's not on the short-term roadmap. Please continue to show your support for this idea.

Thanks,

Patric

Re: Variables

Sajid_Mahmood — Thu, 23 Apr 2020 12:02:54 GMT

Yes, please make the editing and saving buttons with sense

Re: Variables

BillyBirdIBT — Mon, 11 May 2020 10:29:14 GMT

Sensible suggestion for a much needed change

Re: Variables

AndrewMcIlwrick — Thu, 14 May 2020 17:28:12 GMT

Thanks again for the votes. I am actively trying to get some basic features in front of R&D so who knows 😉

Extra thoughts :

Basic ? help link

A moveable window

How about Master Variables ?

Re: Variables

Michael_Tarallo — Wed, 02 Dec 2020 18:33:48 GMT

Do you want this? YES! - When do you wan it? NOW!