idea Re: Availability for the reload data action (button object) not only for app owner (Qlik Sense SaaS) - Status changed to: Open - Collecting Feedback in Suggest an Idea

Availability for the reload data action (button object) not only for app owner (Qlik Sense SaaS)

chaas — Tue, 30 Mar 2021 10:37:14 GMT

Unfortunately, the reload data action for the button object works only if you are the owner of the Qlik Sense app (Qlik Sense SaaS). In our use case, a user (e.g. analyzer with space edit permissions) should be able to reload the application with changed data from an excel file.

As an app owner I can also just go into the data load editor to reload the app. Please make the reload data action available to other users as well.

Thank you

Christoph

Re: Availability for the reload data action (button object) not only for app owner (Qlik Sense SaaS)

simonaubert — Wed, 21 Apr 2021 17:17:42 GMT

Hello. Are you sure it's not a question of security rules? On Qlik Sense EOW, I had to set a little security rules to make the old reload on demand extension to work with a custom property.

Best regards,

Simon

Re: Availability for the reload data action (button object) not only for app owner (Qlik Sense SaaS)

chaas — Thu, 22 Apr 2021 06:03:30 GMT

Hi @simonaubert

Thanks for the advice. On QSEoW it could be a question of security rules. Unfortunately, on Qlik Sense Enterprise SaaS we are not able to configure security rules.

Best

Christoph

Re: Availability for the reload data action (button object) not only for app owner (Qlik Sense SaaS) - Status changed to: Open - Collecting Feedback

Ian_Crosland — Mon, 17 Jan 2022 11:41:06 GMT

Re: Availability for the reload data action (button object) not only for app owner (Qlik Sense SaaS)

AlexOmetis — Tue, 18 Jan 2022 10:29:49 GMT

You can work around this limitation with app automations.

Make an automation that reloads the app and has a webhook trigger.

Have a button that opens a URL and insert the webhook as the target.

It will open a new window/tab for the user, but it will trigger the reload.

Not seamless, but it works.

Re: Availability for the reload data action (button object) not only for app owner (Qlik Sense SaaS)

chaas — Wed, 19 Jan 2022 08:07:44 GMT

Hi @AlexOmetis

Thanks that works. 🙂

As you mentioned the new window/tab is not very intuitive for the user.

Re: Availability for the reload data action (button object) not only for app owner (Qlik Sense SaaS) - Status changed to: Partially Delivered

Ian_Crosland — Wed, 19 Jan 2022 08:30:09 GMT

Re: Availability for the reload data action (button object) not only for app owner (Qlik Sense SaaS)

chaas — Wed, 19 Jan 2022 08:49:38 GMT

Hi @Ian_Crosland

I don't think it is partially delivered. It's a work around with Qlik Application Automation. But the idea is about the reload action of the button object.

Cheers

Re: Availability for the reload data action (button object) not only for app owner (Qlik Sense SaaS) - Status changed to: Open - Collecting Feedback

Ian_Crosland — Wed, 19 Jan 2022 09:01:52 GMT

Re: Availability for the reload data action (button object) not only for app owner (Qlik Sense SaaS)

Ken_T — Wed, 10 Aug 2022 14:57:46 GMT

I believe, you will need to ensure that the users have access to the corresponding data connections in the app. At least that is how it is done in Enterprise with the Action = reload data for buttons.

Re: Availability for the reload data action (button object) not only for app owner (Qlik Sense SaaS)

chaas — Thu, 11 Aug 2022 11:43:24 GMT

Unfortunately, this is not possible in Qlik SaaS.

Re: Availability for the reload data action (button object) not only for app owner (Qlik Sense SaaS)

Meghann_MacDonald — Tue, 25 Apr 2023 12:21:01 GMT

Hi all, here is info on the reloads according t security rules in Qlik Cloud:

Managed spaces: users with "can manage" or "owner" can reload apps and set schedules.

Shared spaces: users with "can manage", "can edit", or "owner" can reload apps and set schedules.

So I would say this idea refers to -> add or change role so that users can RELOAD without being given permission to MANAGE (add and delete users from space, change space details, etc).

This can be worked around with app automation very simply, using the following documentation:

Qlik Help

Community Article by Emile

Previusly, you needed to to paste the automation's CURL into the button in order for anyone to be allowed to use it (since automations could only be executed in the button by owner). However, in the next week we are releasing an update to the button that will allow the "Execute Automation" action to be clicked by anyone, regardless of app / automation owner.

Re: Availability for the reload data action (button object) not only for app owner (Qlik Sense SaaS)

Ken_T — Tue, 25 Apr 2023 12:35:30 GMT

thank you for this workaround, I am sure many of us will give it a look.
However, this does not negate the fact that having a role to do this is totally needed. 100% without a doubt, needed.

there are multiple ideas that have been posted for this
https://community.qlik.com/t5/Suggest-an-Idea/Allow-users-to-perform-app-reloads-in-Qlik-Sense-SaaS-without/idi-p/2006414

https://community.qlik.com/t5/Suggest-an-Idea/Add-Schedule-Reload-role-to-Managed-space-permissions/idi-p/2016201

Having an automation workaround is good, but this should be do-able directly in the Qlik SAAS / QCG systems without such workarounds.

Re: Availability for the reload data action (button object) not only for app owner (Qlik Sense SaaS)

sfbi — Tue, 25 Apr 2023 12:53:50 GMT

Hi @Meghann_MacDonald

This is already available for me (awesome), but how to show the notifications? I've tried to add a output (reload started for example) from the automation but it didn't worked.

Thank you

Re: Availability for the reload data action (button object) not only for app owner (Qlik Sense SaaS)

chaas — Tue, 25 Apr 2023 13:01:59 GMT

Hi @sfbi

You can do it with the Update Run Title block.

Re: Availability for the reload data action (button object) not only for app owner (Qlik Sense SaaS)

sfbi — Tue, 25 Apr 2023 17:17:58 GMT

@chaas Thank you... I was able to set the notification, but only after the automation is completed, and not when the automation is running...

For example: Notification to inform user that the reload has started (this won't show).

Re: Availability for the reload data action (button object) not only for app owner (Qlik Sense SaaS)

Meghann_MacDonald — Wed, 26 Apr 2023 00:52:37 GMT

Hi all, I was also having trouble with the notification last week, I’ll have @Emile_Koslowski comment on that one.

And @Ken_T , I agree, still a valid request that many people would like to see! Will definitely keep this open.

Re: Availability for the reload data action (button object) not only for app owner (Qlik Sense SaaS)

Emile_Koslowski — Wed, 26 Apr 2023 09:40:33 GMT

@sfbi It's only possible to use the Update Run Title block if it's at the end of your automation. If you want to let the user know the automation was started, you could use a 'Set variable value' action in the button before and after doing the Execute automation action:

Re: Availability for the reload data action (button object) not only for app owner (Qlik Sense SaaS)

sfbi — Wed, 26 Apr 2023 12:53:21 GMT

@Emile_Koslowski nice... I've created bkg color and icon variable for the button... thanks!

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