topic Re: Unable to allow a "Duplicate" option in App Development

Unable to allow a "Duplicate" option

vlad_komarov — Mon, 05 Oct 2015 20:14:37 GMT

I have an application published to the stream and it's accessible by a specific user. I would like to give this user an option to Duplicate this app into his own workspace so it will allow him to do some modifications without disturbing the published app.

As of now, the app is visible, but no "Duplicate" option is available when user does the "Right Click" on the app's icon...

I could not find the Rule that needs to be updated to give this option to the user.

P.S. This user is set as a "ContentAdmin" on the system.

Looking forward for suggestions/direction.

Regards,

Vladimir

Message was edited by: Vladimir Komarov

Re: Unable to allow a "Duplicate" option

korsikov — Tue, 06 Oct 2015 06:09:57 GMT

conducted research on the user Root Admin. Get the opportunity to make a "duplicate" application only is the user posted. Perform additional research and come back with the results.

ps это очень странно что root админ может сделать дубликат любого опубликованного приложения. У него в правах стоит * то есть ему можно все.

Re: Unable to allow a "Duplicate" option

korsikov — Tue, 06 Oct 2015 09:15:19 GMT

я обнаружил что возможность дублировать приложение зависит прав владельца. Владелец может дублировать свои приложения. Возможно это даже бага. Они хотели что бы пользователь мог дублировать приложения в потоке "Моя работа", а получилось вот так. Самое простое решение - сменить пользователя у опубликованного приложения. Нужно смотреть в сторону правил OwnerRead и OwnerPublish

Буду копать дальше, тема интересная

I found that the ability to duplicate the application depends on the rights of the owner. The owner can duplicate own application. Perhaps it is a bug. May be Qlik wanted that the user could duplicate application in the stream "My job," but it turned out like this. The simple solution - change the user from the published application. You need to look in the direction of the rules OvnerRead and OwnerPublish

Re: Unable to allow a "Duplicate" option

korsikov — Wed, 07 Oct 2015 14:59:49 GMT

there is some internal rule for condition resource.IsOwned() andresource.owner = user

I'm create rule

resource filter *

conditions ((user.name="korsikov"))

context both

action - Create, read, update,delete, export, publish, change owner. change role, explor data

and I was able to delete the published applications, regardless of who their owner. This is despite the fact that even with the rights of "Root admin" I did not have at this opportunity

will continue...

Re: Unable to allow a "Duplicate" option

Anonymous — Mon, 30 Nov 2015 03:50:34 GMT

hey guys, any further discoveries here? I am very curious - it is something that we could use at my organization.

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Re: Unable to allow a "Duplicate" option

Anonymous — Wed, 02 Dec 2015 20:23:01 GMT

I submitted a ticket to Qlik BTW, asking if there is a way for Developer 2 to duplicate an app created by Developer 1 without asking QMC admin (or without giving them access to QMC) and they came back with this that gave me a hope it will be addressed in future:

There currently is not a way for Developer 2 to duplicate any apps that they do not own in the Hub. This has been logged as an improvement and the folks in R&D are working on it.

Re: Unable to allow a "Duplicate" option

korsikov — Thu, 03 Dec 2015 08:59:14 GMT

Значит я не ошибался. Только владелец может сделать данное действие. Будем ждать результатов. И вообще хотелось бы дать возможность пользователю публиковать свои приложения, но с возможностью модерации публикаций администратором.

И я вижу заготовки к этому. Например в appobjects есть две колонки Published и Approved.

Возможно будет возможность посылать объекты на публикацию, а пользователь с достаточными правами будем апрувить публикации.

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good news. We will wait this feature.

Re: Unable to allow a "Duplicate" option

mountaindude — Fri, 12 Feb 2016 00:07:27 GMT

Any updates here? Workarounds?

I have been struggling with the same issue, really seems like there should be a way to achieve this...
If not, hopefully the next version (which hopefully shouldn't be too far away) will bring a solution.

Re: Unable to allow a "Duplicate" option

korsikov — Fri, 12 Feb 2016 07:04:23 GMT

nope. nothing change. Wait when version 2.2 will released and i will test again.

Re: Unable to allow a "Duplicate" option

Anonymous — Fri, 12 Feb 2016 13:54:22 GMT

trust me, no way as of right now. We looked really really hard and involved Qlik support and Qlik architects.

Re: Unable to allow a "Duplicate" option

mountaindude — Sun, 14 Feb 2016 09:59:18 GMT

Ok thanks.

I did spend a couple of very long nights digging through the options, trying to find some combination of security rules settings that worked, but no luck. Let's wait for 2.2 then.

Re: Unable to allow a "Duplicate" option

Thu, 21 Apr 2016 18:46:29 GMT

I have 2.2 and this does not seem to work in 2.2 either.

Re: Unable to allow a "Duplicate" option

Thu, 21 Apr 2016 18:47:58 GMT

Doesn't seem to work in 2.2 either. One option might be to give "Change Owner" to both Developers. They can change the owner back and forth on objects and then duplicate them. But what a pain!

Re: Unable to allow a "Duplicate" option

Thu, 21 Apr 2016 18:48:28 GMT

Hi Boris, One option might be to give "Change Owner" to both Developers. They can change the owner back and forth on objects and then duplicate them. But what a pain!

Re: Unable to allow a "Duplicate" option

mountaindude — Sat, 23 Apr 2016 18:26:57 GMT

For what it's worth, this probably wasn't an issue after all, but rather an effect of the default security rules that ship with Sense.

We have refined the security rules to meet our needs (accomplishing things like setting up people to be admins within specific streams), and when I revisited the issue described in this thread, I realised it wasn't an issue any more. Works like a charm - just as the way it should.

To solve the original problem of this thread, you would have to make both users admins of the stream in which the app has been published. But if that has been done, duplicating works without a hitch.

Re: Unable to allow a "Duplicate" option

vlad_komarov — Sat, 23 Apr 2016 18:31:10 GMT

I have three Root Admins set on my server and none of these people can duplicate the app outside the QMC.

The "Duplicate" option is simply not available on the Hub for the person who did not created this app...

Unless I am missing something, this issue is still exists.

Re: Unable to allow a "Duplicate" option

alexbjorlig — Tue, 21 Jun 2016 07:11:43 GMT

Can you provide an example of how you obtained this?

Re: Unable to allow a "Duplicate" option

EmmaC — Fri, 21 Apr 2017 09:44:07 GMT

What about the version 3.2 version? It is still not possible???

Re: Unable to allow a "Duplicate" option

vlad_komarov — Fri, 21 Apr 2017 12:23:09 GMT

Yes, still the case in 3.2 (SR1).

Only Delete option is available in the Hub:

I am going to upgrade to SR3 soon, so will see if it will change anything...

Re: Unable to allow a "Duplicate" option

EmmaC — Fri, 21 Apr 2017 14:36:51 GMT

I opened a ticket and i was told that in 3.2 it should be possible. With security rules! BUT qlik is not allowed to tell us how to implement this

I have 3.2 SR 2

It would be nice to see an example

regards,