topic Re: QlikSense Desktop (free) discontinues in June 2020 in Management & Governance

QlikSense Desktop (free) discontinues in June 2020

paul_scotchford — Sat, 16 Nov 2024 19:31:11 GMT

Today I read that QlikSense desktop will no longer available for download and use (as well as existing installations) from June 2020.

Rumour or fact ?

Why do this ? Besides profiteering ? Surely there are other ways to encourage early adopters ? Forcing people to Qlik SaaS offering is not a great option as it does not support much in the way of extensions and of course locks out 3rd party extension provides such as VizLib which I use when prototyping before migrating to a server.

Re: QlikSense Desktop (free) discontinues in June 2020

rwunderlich — Wed, 04 Dec 2019 23:12:38 GMT

Pretty much true. You can read the full announcement here https://community.qlik.com/t5/Qlik-Support-Updates-Blog/Changes-to-Qlik-Sense-Desktop-in-2020/ba-p/1653306

-Rob

Re: QlikSense Desktop (free) discontinues in June 2020

paul_scotchford — Wed, 04 Dec 2019 23:37:57 GMT

Thanks Rob, I saw that after posting here.

Looks like I will procure a minimum enterprise licence soon.

Re: QlikSense Desktop (free) discontinues in June 2020

mwallman — Thu, 05 Dec 2019 11:41:23 GMT

Utterly ridiculous decision by Qlik.

I really hope the community lobbies against this, it is so so useful in expanding the product in an organisation.

Re: QlikSense Desktop (free) discontinues in June 2020

piotr-bratek — Mon, 27 Jul 2020 21:26:49 GMT

UPDATE!

Hi,

I've prepared a newer version of the short summary for all who cannot accept that sad fact 🙂

Full article on my blog: https://www.dataminers.io/en/no-longer-freedom/

cheers
Piotr

Re: QlikSense Desktop (free) discontinues in June 2020

paul_scotchford — Thu, 05 Dec 2019 22:37:10 GMT

Just reading the updated comments at https://community.qlik.com/t5/Qlik-Support-Updates-Blog/Changes-to-Qlik-Sense-Desktop-in-2020/ba-p/1653306

Paragraph ...

Ability to keep data offline while trying (and using) Qlik Sense:

We have prioritized enabling Qlik Sense Desktop to authenticate via Qlik Cloud Services which would enable Qlik Sense Business users to also use Qlik Sense Desktop. This will enable paid and trial users to keep their data local if they choose.

I would definitely buy the Cloud subscription, Qlik! when will know about this option ? And will it apply to all tiers ?

Re: QlikSense Desktop (free) discontinues in June 2020

itibook — Sat, 07 Dec 2019 11:08:30 GMT

This is really a poor decision and even more poorly communicated... a simple blog post, no direct message to the QDS users.

I have been using Qlik product for more than 10 years and I love them (hence why I am so vocal about this). I am all in favour of Qlik trying to earn more money especially if that helps speed up development , but this is like pulling the carpet under the users/customers feet. Furthermore without any rational explanation.

In most products like QlikSense you always have one size of the platform subsidizing the other. Viewing PDFs is free, but you pay for the PDF creator. Tableau Desktop is paid, but you get a free Tableau Viewer. None of this "free" option has prevented these companies from being successful, quite the contrary it's part of the platform strategy to solve the chicken-egg problem.

Qlik had made a very clear decision: free to create, paid to share on a server. Absolutely sound decision as the ratio of developers vs viewers is largely in favour of the viewers.

By making the QDS paid, this will limit the amount of people creating apps, and if you reduce the amount of people creating apps, where is the demand for buying viewers licenses going to come from?

Now that QSD is maturing, I don't have any problem to see more friction, but not like this. They could limit the amount of free apps (e.g. max of 5) on QSD and then push harder to upgrade etc etc, but removing the free option altogether is a major blow to users and a major mistake.

I have always been able to drive Qlik adoption by training more Qlik developers and having them create apps which in turn would generate demand from viewers.

From the outside, this move looks more like a financial driven decision and certainly not product driven one. And when finance takes decision for products, it normally doesn't end well.

Re: QlikSense Desktop (free) discontinues in June 2020

paulcalvet — Mon, 09 Dec 2019 08:12:28 GMT

Yes it's a very bad news.

It's strange, comments are disabled on Qlik's post... 🤔

Re: QlikSense Desktop (free) discontinues in June 2020

itibook — Mon, 09 Dec 2019 08:51:15 GMT

well spotted... looks like this is only blog post where comments are disabled...

so much for openness and listening to the community. This is so old school it's embarassing

Re: QlikSense Desktop (free) discontinues in June 2020

paul_scotchford — Tue, 17 Dec 2019 21:40:36 GMT

I've just discovered Tableau public which looks pretty good especially as it provides significant functionality for those that cannot/will not pay for Visualisation development early on in their evaluation.

There is no time limit with Tableau Public and users can share their Visualisations with others as well ; also a max space of 10gb is offered for free.

Only downside is it cannot be connected to a Database Source such as SQL Server,Oracle etc but will connect to Excel , JSON data sources, text (csv) , Odata etc which probably is enough to get going with the product.

My point ? Why didn't Qlik follow a similar route rather than cutting people off at the knees with QlikSense ?

I think I am swaying into Tableau dev territory now.

Re: QlikSense Desktop (free) discontinues in June 2020

paul_scotchford — Mon, 13 Jan 2020 23:19:53 GMT

I have tested the ability to authenticate QlikSense Desktop to the Qlik Business Cloud and happy to report that QlikSense Desktop works when using Cloud credentials to login.

Re: QlikSense Desktop (free) discontinues in June 2020

SergeyMak — Tue, 14 Jan 2020 01:21:56 GMT

Hi Paul,

I'm thinking of going down Power BI route... It looks quite promising too.

Best regards,

Sergey

Re: QlikSense Desktop (free) discontinues in June 2020

paul_scotchford — Tue, 14 Jan 2020 21:34:02 GMT

Hi Sergey,

Let me know how that works out.

Re: QlikSense Desktop (free) discontinues in June 2020

MohamedELH — Tue, 28 Jan 2020 22:34:25 GMT

Hello,

I am happy to see that other QS users find this decision quite unefficient. QSD free is an efficient driver for encouraging low BI consuming users.

If this is the case, I will see with my partners to analyze PowerBI capabilties more in details....

Re: QlikSense Desktop (free) discontinues in June 2020

vunguyenq89 — Wed, 29 Jan 2020 12:05:19 GMT

So sad with this decision from Qlik ☹️

From a Community point of view this demotivates people from answering questions and joining discussions.

I have no access to QSE, so with QSD going commercial I have no place to test my solution before answering a question on Qlik community.

Re: QlikSense Desktop (free) discontinues in June 2020

igdrazil — Wed, 29 Jan 2020 12:14:46 GMT

I JUST noticed that QSD is being set behind a pay-wall with unreasonable costs compared to the current model.

THEN I noticed that the relevant blogpost is close to 2 months old and I didn't notice it even tho I'm with QSD all day.
An E-Mail announcement to all Community members sending out a notification about this HUGE change would have been great, just saying!

Even though, we have a QSE installation and a couple of user-tokens, we still use the desktop version to push it further inside our company. We might have to stop this process since we can't just give out QSD for free to our colleagues to let them play before having to use a full access token.

Not sure how to proceed from here, I really hope the community speaks up to find a different solution about this!

Re: QlikSense Desktop (free) discontinues in June 2020

felipe87 — Thu, 30 Jan 2020 19:28:28 GMT

Soo sad to hear this... I met Qlik at my work and was fascinated..
I worked in a public job so It took a few years , but now we finally have bought a few licenses.

This was only possible because we had the Desktop Free version to use before , so that we could see the actual potential of the tool. Eventually we need more processing power, security control and schedule reloads and that is why we end up buying.

I was also thinking on using Qlik for my personal use. Was building a Dashboard with data from my personal Finances. I was going to show this to a lot of people (planing on starting a Personal Finance Education Project) and that was going to be free publicity to Qlik.. Maybe in the future, some of those people will became clients..
Now I think I had to find a new tool for that. Maybe Power BI ?
For a single person the fees for Qlik it too much.. I know that you get a lot from the tool, but for people with small projects (with maybe no revenue attached to it) it is too much...
Hope they change it... Wonder if Qliqview desktop will change too ???

Re: QlikSense Desktop (free) discontinues in June 2020

Suvijak — Mon, 03 Feb 2020 15:47:29 GMT

My company using Qlik Enterprise that no effect, but my personal like to practice coding on my personal PC that cannot use company account. so, now I need to find other free option for study.

If limitation some feature for free account is acceptable, but no longer for free user. and minimum price too expensive for me.

Regard

Re: QlikSense Desktop (free) discontinues in June 2020

prabhu0505 — Mon, 03 Feb 2020 17:18:26 GMT

IMHO discontinuing free desktop is a terrible idea, if there is no proper backup option planned

Kind'ah feel... Qlik community activities are already going down and scattered (qlikbranch, github,..etc.).

If free desktop is taken out then there won't be much innovative thoughts or discussions happening around the usability of tool.

Re: QlikSense Desktop (free) discontinues in June 2020

walkasia — Mon, 03 Feb 2020 18:22:11 GMT

I would like to join the chorus of those disappointed by this decision. We are a very small non-profit. We have been using Qlik Sense to demonstrate our amazing impact on our community and to increase our funding for our programs. And we have been talking up how amazing the Qlik Sense product is to all of the larger non profits that we interact with in the Washington DC vicinity.

I understand completely that Qlik Sense needs to have a licensing and pricing model that works for them, and am happy to pay them for the good work that they do. My bigger issue is the complexity being introduced by forcing us to the cloud and to the enterprise model.

As I understand it, as of the end of June, our options will be (1) move completely to the Qlik Cloud, which raises data privacy issues for us, as our county funding requires that we secure our client data; or (2) move to an Enterprise model, just so we can continue to use desktop, which is a level of complexity that we get no benefit from at all and that may actually make it harder for us to work, as we have no IT department and only 1 data "person"... or (3) start looking at other products.

I have reached out to Qlik Sense sales to discuss what our options might be, but am pessimistic about the outcome.

Any suggestions about the simplest implementation would be appreciated.

- Gwen