topic Re: How to duplicate an app from a managed space in Management & Governance

How to duplicate an app from a managed space

ggijben — Sat, 16 Nov 2024 01:29:23 GMT

Hi All,

I have an app in a managed space that i want to edit, but i can't find the option to duplicate it so i can make changes. I only can move it to another managed space, but you can't edit it there.

This is really driving me crazy. Both in the HUB or in the Console, i cant find the duplicatie option. Just some options to edit the name and schedule the reload.

Hopefully someone can point me in the right direction.

Re: How to duplicate an app from a managed space

Waïl_Riachi_Sanofi — Fri, 11 Sep 2020 09:07:12 GMT

Hi,
Right click on the application and "duplicate".

Re: How to duplicate an app from a managed space

ggijben — Fri, 11 Sep 2020 09:16:24 GMT

Yes, ofcourse i tried that but theres no option to duplicate. The only opties i see are:

Details
Preferences for alerts
Edit
Reload
Schedule Reload
Delete

Re: How to duplicate an app from a managed space

barnabyd — Mon, 14 Sep 2020 04:15:10 GMT

G'day,

I think this is a case of understanding the normal development workflow that Qlik has designed for QS Saas.

The developer who published the app into the Managed Space will also have a copy in their Personal Space. There doesn't appear to be a way to duplicate an app in a Managed Space (either in the Hub or the Console), but it is possible to duplicate apps in Shared and Personal Spaces. So, here's your options:

If you have contact with the owner/developer of the app, then ask him/her to move the app or a copy of the app into a Shared Space where you have access
If you don't have contract with the owner/developer, then a ContentAdmin can change the owner of the app from the Console. From there, you can make a copy and move the original app back to its original owner

I hope this gives you a way forward.

Cheers,

Barnaby.

Re: How to duplicate an app from a managed space

ggijben — Fri, 18 Sep 2020 10:31:35 GMT

Hi Barnaby,

The problem is that the "Original" app from the Personal Space is deleted. So the only app left is the one in the Managed Space.

What to do now? It cant be the case that we cant edit or change this app anymore?

@Michael_Tarallo maybe you can help me out with this one?

Re: How to duplicate an app from a managed space

barnabyd — Mon, 21 Sep 2020 03:32:20 GMT

G'day @ggijben,

That definitely makes things difficult. I've had a look around the Console to see if there are any work-arounds. You can't access the apps that are in a Managed Space and you can't change the type of the Space from Managed to Shared. I'm a ContentAdmin on our server. I don't know if RootAdmin can do more than that. I'd say it's time to call Qlik support. The only other option I thought of was to try the 'qlik-cli'.

Cheers,

Barnaby.

Re: How to duplicate an app from a managed space

Leigh_Kennedy — Mon, 21 Sep 2020 05:24:47 GMT

HI @ggijben

I thought I would try and reproduce you issue and then see if I could get out of it. First a huge word or caution. While I work for Qlik, I do not work for Qlik support. I can not say if what I have found is supported or reliable. Log a support case if you have not already done so.

Having said that as @barnabyd said the solution was likely to be in qlik-qli.

Open the app in the managed space and grab the app-id. Mine is e348b77a-6afc-4790-b766-bf6be07ca755

First is to verify you can actually get the app details wit the cli:

PS C:\> qlik app get e348b77a-6afc-4790-b766-bf6be07ca755 200 OK { "attributes": { "_resourcetype": "app", "createdDate": "2020-09-21T04:49:40.873Z", "custom": {}, "description": "Ability to analyze the forecast variance numbers across a number of dimensions. The application contains a number of features and was developed by Jeremy Benza of Qlik.", "dynamicColor": "hsla(203,18%,43%,1)", "encrypted": true, "hasSectionAccess": false, "id": "e348b77a-6afc-4790-b766-bf6be07ca755", "lastReloadTime": "2018-10-01T16:16:06.353Z", "modifiedDate": "2020-09-21T04:49:40.873Z", "name": "Managed test", "originAppId": "d413f009-f9e6-4c33-a6be-a1df2d38445f", "owner": "auth0|a08D00000190x3sIAA", "ownerId": "AAv2ITOAyYrXe6er5CXZqUQvHVNtKvd_", "publishTime": "2020-09-21T04:49:43.751Z", "published": false, "spaceId": "5f0f7ca8fcc972000145c68e", "thumbnail": "/api/v1/apps/e348b77a-6afc-4790-b766-bf6be07ca755/media/files/diacor-distributors.jpg" }, ....

Now export fails on this app and also on the original appId (shown in the output). So does copy and most other actions I tried. however I had more luck with qlik app space update. Running this cleared the space id:

PS C:\> qlik app space update e348b77a-6afc-4790-b766-bf6be07ca755 200 OK { "attributes": { "_resourcetype": "app", "createdDate": "2020-09-21T04:49:40.873Z", "custom": {}, "description": "Ability to analyze the forecast variance numbers across a number of dimensions. The application contains a number of features and was developed by Jeremy Benza of Qlik.", "dynamicColor": "hsla(203,18%,43%,1)", "encrypted": true, "hasSectionAccess": false, "id": "e348b77a-6afc-4790-b766-bf6be07ca755", "lastReloadTime": "2018-10-01T16:16:06.353Z", "modifiedDate": "2020-09-21T04:58:38.061Z", "name": "Managed test", "originAppId": "d413f009-f9e6-4c33-a6be-a1df2d38445f", "owner": "auth0|a08D00000190x3sIAA", "ownerId": "AAv2ITOAyYrXe6er5CXZqUQvHVNtKvd_", "publishTime": "2020-09-21T04:49:43.751Z", "published": false, "spaceId": "", "thumbnail": "/api/v1/apps/e348b77a-6afc-4790-b766-bf6be07ca755/media/files/diacor-distributors.jpg" },

Now this app no longer appeared in the managed space and now appears in my personal space.

Now I can export the app:

PS C:\> qlik app export e348b77a-6afc-4790-b766-bf6be07ca755 --output-file myapp.qvf 200 OK PS C:\>

PS C:\> dir *.qvf Directory: C:\ Mode LastWriteTime Length Name ---- ------------- ------ ---- -a---- 21/09/2020 3:19 PM 31457280 myapp.qvf PS C:\>

As I said before, check with support before doing this!

Regards.

Leigh.

Re: How to duplicate an app from a managed space

ggijben — Mon, 21 Sep 2020 14:42:23 GMT

@Leigh_Kennedy Thank you for pointing us in the right direction!!!

I logged a support case and they didn't know it was possible untill i showed them your solution. Shortly after, they posted an article about this :

https://support.qlik.com/articles/000112106

I followed the steps and this worked flawless. Thank you again!!!

Re: How to duplicate an app from a managed space

GabrielLima — Sun, 22 May 2022 21:13:13 GMT

I was have the same problem.

This solution not working in my case.

So, i developed this solution: https://cheerful-gaufre-f2f3d3.netlify.app

First set permissions to this application.

So, connect your tenant.

After click in SUBMIT. Your app will moved to personal space.

For your security, after moved app, remove yours permissions.

This app not save your informations, is possible access application code.

The application code is on GitHub. See your repository in the app.

Re: How to duplicate an app from a managed space

AlexOmetis — Mon, 13 Feb 2023 14:47:28 GMT

I ended up making a Qlik App Automation for this. It takes an App ID, changes the owner to the current user, unpublishes, copies, republishes and sets the owner back to the original. You have to be an admin to use this but I haven't tested what minimum permissions are required, but here is the export...

Re: How to duplicate an app from a managed space

sten_lomme — Wed, 07 Jun 2023 08:20:51 GMT

Shouldn't this feature be part of native Qlik SaaS solution? Is there any plans on including this in the platform?

Re: How to duplicate an app from a managed space

luizcdepaula — Mon, 26 Jun 2023 20:49:32 GMT

Hi Alex,

Can you share the details on how you set up the input values in the automation? I am new to automation and I am having trouble understanding how to use the Json file.

Thanks,

Luiz

Re: How to duplicate an app from a managed space

jelzo_nl — Wed, 26 Jul 2023 14:41:31 GMT

Important

Please upvote this idea to add this function to the development roadmap as soon as possible:
https://community.qlik.com/t5/Suggest-an-Idea/Qlik-Sense-SaaS-Duplicate-Export-App-from-Managed-Spac...

Method: Using Qlik Automation

You can also unpublish using Qlik Automation. This will move the app back to the owners personal space.

Create a new API key ({apiKey}).
Create the automation flow as shown below.
Add the app id to the appId variable.
Create a new connection type='httpheader', authentication_name='Authorization', api_key='Bearer {apiKey}', base_url='{tenantId}.{region}.qlikcloud.com/api/v1/'.
Run the automation.

Unpublish app from managed space using Qlik Automation

Re: How to duplicate an app from a managed space

mgranillo — Mon, 08 Jan 2024 22:16:48 GMT

@AlexOmetis Are you able to update the app using this method? All i see this doing is making a copy, which is better than nothing, but i really need to be able to overwrite the existing app in the managed space . Do you know a way to do that without pulling it down from the managed space. How to get that back if the original copy is deleted?

Re: How to duplicate an app from a managed space

GabrielLima — Tue, 09 Jan 2024 14:20:19 GMT

You can't change the published app in Saas or duplicate it. So, you can move the published app to your workspace area, after you can change the necessary, publish your app again.

Re: How to duplicate an app from a managed space

mgranillo — Wed, 10 Jan 2024 20:37:47 GMT

End users can't access the app during that process right? Essentially an outage to end users. Not good. Hoping Qlik can do something about this. Supposedly a fix is on the roadmap but still waiting...

Re: How to duplicate an app from a managed space

GabrielLima — Thu, 11 Jan 2024 16:46:08 GMT

This topic is of 2020, some alternative solutions was developed about this problem. When i had this problem i see a lot of topics opened. Maybe it will take a while.

When you move the app to your workspace, you will can duplicate the app.

So, you move the app, duplicate the app, then publish the app again.

Now you will can change the app because you have a dashboard copy.

Then you can publish the app replacing old app.

Re: How to duplicate an app from a managed space

mgranillo — Thu, 11 Jan 2024 21:16:32 GMT

You will have a copy, but the copy cannot be used to overwrite the existing app. It's crucial to be able to overwrite the existing app so personal sheets are maintained. If you publish the duplicate copy, personal sheets are gone. The only alternative is to use the API to move the app from the managed space, make your updates then use the API to move the app back to the managed space. This maintains the personal sheets but means the app is down from production while updates are being done. Fortunately, Qlik just updated the ideation page this week and says a fix is coming very soon. It can't come soon enough. It's making a mess of our workflow.

Re: How to duplicate an app from a managed space

GabrielLima — Thu, 11 Jan 2024 21:25:28 GMT

i think that we have a different problem, when you move the app to your WS, you should can restart the process. Publish, replace, etc.

Re: How to duplicate an app from a managed space

mgranillo — Thu, 11 Jan 2024 21:53:29 GMT

You can't restart the process. Only the original app is able to overwrite the app that was moved from the managed space. That app is gone is this scenario. If you want to restart with the duplicate, then all the end user sheets will be gone. We have apps with dozen to hundreds, sometimes even over a thousand end-user built sheets. A lot of it is junk but some of it's not. If you restart the process with the dup, all that's gone. I haven't even looked at bookmarks. Those permissions are probably lost too.