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    <title>topic Talend Cloud – Engine requirements, firewall scenarios &amp;amp; token calculation in Installing and Upgrading</title>
    <link>https://community.qlik.com/t5/Installing-and-Upgrading/Talend-Cloud-Engine-requirements-firewall-scenarios-amp-token/m-p/2541852#M12827</link>
    <description>&lt;P data-start="212" data-end="224"&gt;Hi everyone,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P data-start="226" data-end="334"&gt;I’d like to validate our understanding of Talend Cloud Engines to avoid licensing or architectural mistakes.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P data-start="336" data-end="464"&gt;&lt;STRONG data-start="336" data-end="348"&gt;Scenario&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;BR data-start="348" data-end="351" /&gt;We operate three separate servers (A, B, C), each hosting local databases and files to be processed via ETL jobs.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;UL&gt;
&lt;LI data-start="336" data-end="464"&gt;Server A &amp;amp; B: located behind a firewall, not publicly reachable&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI data-start="336" data-end="464"&gt;Server C: publicly reachable over the internet&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/UL&gt;
&lt;P data-start="584" data-end="611"&gt;&lt;STRONG data-start="584" data-end="609"&gt;Current understanding&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;UL&gt;
&lt;LI data-start="584" data-end="611"&gt;Talend Cloud without any assigned Engine (Cloud or Remote) only provides development, management, and orchestration features. Job execution, scheduling, monitoring, and logging are not possible without an Engine.&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI data-start="584" data-end="611"&gt;For servers behind a firewall (A &amp;amp; B), a Remote Engine is required, as Cloud Engines can only access publicly reachable systems.&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI data-start="584" data-end="611"&gt;For a publicly reachable server (C), both Cloud Engine and Remote Engine are technically possible:
&lt;UL&gt;
&lt;LI data-start="1082" data-end="1145"&gt;Cloud Engine would process data via Talend Cloud infrastructure&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI data-start="1082" data-end="1145"&gt;Remote Engine keeps all data processing within the local infrastructure&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/UL&gt;
&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/UL&gt;
&lt;OL data-start="613" data-end="1403"&gt;
&lt;LI style="list-style-type: none;" data-start="967" data-end="1222"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI data-start="1224" data-end="1403"&gt;
&lt;P data-start="1227" data-end="1270"&gt;Token consumption (based on documentation):&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/OL&gt;
&lt;UL&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;1 Remote Engine = 9,000 Engine Tokens&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI data-start="1321" data-end="1367"&gt;3 servers ⇒ 3 Remote Engines ⇒ 27,000 Tokens&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI data-start="1321" data-end="1367"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;1 Cloud Engine ⇒ 45,000 Tokens&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/UL&gt;
&lt;P data-start="1405" data-end="1420"&gt;&lt;STRONG data-start="1405" data-end="1418"&gt;Questions&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;UL&gt;
&lt;LI data-start="1424" data-end="1496"&gt;Is an Engine (Cloud or Remote) always required to execute Talend jobs?&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI data-start="1424" data-end="1496"&gt;Are Remote Engines mandatory for servers behind a firewall?&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI data-start="1563" data-end="1666"&gt;Is using a Cloud Engine for a public server recommended from a Talend/Qlik best-practice perspective?&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI data-start="1669" data-end="1708"&gt;Is the token calculation above correct?&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/UL&gt;
&lt;P data-start="1710" data-end="2000"&gt;&lt;STRONG data-start="1710" data-end="1738"&gt;Additional clarification&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;BR data-start="1738" data-end="1741" /&gt;If all servers (A, B, C) and their databases were publicly reachable, would a &lt;STRONG data-start="1819" data-end="1842"&gt;single Cloud Engine&lt;/STRONG&gt; be sufficient to run ETL jobs for multiple servers, with the only limitation being engine capacity (parallelism/resources) rather than the number of systems?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P data-start="2002" data-end="2068"&gt;Thanks in advance for any clarification or best-practice guidance. We're in the process of moving from Open Studio to Talend Studio and would like to benefit of Cloud features like monitoring, running jobs from a single spot and get rid of hundreds of lines of shell script.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;DIV id="tinyMceEditorahbrajev_1" class="mceNonEditable lia-copypaste-placeholder"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;DIV id="tinyMceEditorahbrajev_0" class="mceNonEditable lia-copypaste-placeholder"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;P data-start="2002" data-end="2068"&gt;Kind regards,&lt;BR /&gt;ahbrajev&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2026 16:22:48 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>ahbrajev</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2026-01-28T16:22:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Talend Cloud – Engine requirements, firewall scenarios &amp; token calculation</title>
      <link>https://community.qlik.com/t5/Installing-and-Upgrading/Talend-Cloud-Engine-requirements-firewall-scenarios-amp-token/m-p/2541852#M12827</link>
      <description>&lt;P data-start="212" data-end="224"&gt;Hi everyone,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P data-start="226" data-end="334"&gt;I’d like to validate our understanding of Talend Cloud Engines to avoid licensing or architectural mistakes.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P data-start="336" data-end="464"&gt;&lt;STRONG data-start="336" data-end="348"&gt;Scenario&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;BR data-start="348" data-end="351" /&gt;We operate three separate servers (A, B, C), each hosting local databases and files to be processed via ETL jobs.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;UL&gt;
&lt;LI data-start="336" data-end="464"&gt;Server A &amp;amp; B: located behind a firewall, not publicly reachable&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI data-start="336" data-end="464"&gt;Server C: publicly reachable over the internet&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/UL&gt;
&lt;P data-start="584" data-end="611"&gt;&lt;STRONG data-start="584" data-end="609"&gt;Current understanding&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;UL&gt;
&lt;LI data-start="584" data-end="611"&gt;Talend Cloud without any assigned Engine (Cloud or Remote) only provides development, management, and orchestration features. Job execution, scheduling, monitoring, and logging are not possible without an Engine.&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI data-start="584" data-end="611"&gt;For servers behind a firewall (A &amp;amp; B), a Remote Engine is required, as Cloud Engines can only access publicly reachable systems.&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI data-start="584" data-end="611"&gt;For a publicly reachable server (C), both Cloud Engine and Remote Engine are technically possible:
&lt;UL&gt;
&lt;LI data-start="1082" data-end="1145"&gt;Cloud Engine would process data via Talend Cloud infrastructure&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI data-start="1082" data-end="1145"&gt;Remote Engine keeps all data processing within the local infrastructure&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/UL&gt;
&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/UL&gt;
&lt;OL data-start="613" data-end="1403"&gt;
&lt;LI style="list-style-type: none;" data-start="967" data-end="1222"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI data-start="1224" data-end="1403"&gt;
&lt;P data-start="1227" data-end="1270"&gt;Token consumption (based on documentation):&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/OL&gt;
&lt;UL&gt;
&lt;LI&gt;1 Remote Engine = 9,000 Engine Tokens&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI data-start="1321" data-end="1367"&gt;3 servers ⇒ 3 Remote Engines ⇒ 27,000 Tokens&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI data-start="1321" data-end="1367"&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;1 Cloud Engine ⇒ 45,000 Tokens&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/UL&gt;
&lt;P data-start="1405" data-end="1420"&gt;&lt;STRONG data-start="1405" data-end="1418"&gt;Questions&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;UL&gt;
&lt;LI data-start="1424" data-end="1496"&gt;Is an Engine (Cloud or Remote) always required to execute Talend jobs?&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI data-start="1424" data-end="1496"&gt;Are Remote Engines mandatory for servers behind a firewall?&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI data-start="1563" data-end="1666"&gt;Is using a Cloud Engine for a public server recommended from a Talend/Qlik best-practice perspective?&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;LI data-start="1669" data-end="1708"&gt;Is the token calculation above correct?&lt;/LI&gt;
&lt;/UL&gt;
&lt;P data-start="1710" data-end="2000"&gt;&lt;STRONG data-start="1710" data-end="1738"&gt;Additional clarification&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;BR data-start="1738" data-end="1741" /&gt;If all servers (A, B, C) and their databases were publicly reachable, would a &lt;STRONG data-start="1819" data-end="1842"&gt;single Cloud Engine&lt;/STRONG&gt; be sufficient to run ETL jobs for multiple servers, with the only limitation being engine capacity (parallelism/resources) rather than the number of systems?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P data-start="2002" data-end="2068"&gt;Thanks in advance for any clarification or best-practice guidance. We're in the process of moving from Open Studio to Talend Studio and would like to benefit of Cloud features like monitoring, running jobs from a single spot and get rid of hundreds of lines of shell script.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;DIV id="tinyMceEditorahbrajev_1" class="mceNonEditable lia-copypaste-placeholder"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;DIV id="tinyMceEditorahbrajev_0" class="mceNonEditable lia-copypaste-placeholder"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;P data-start="2002" data-end="2068"&gt;Kind regards,&lt;BR /&gt;ahbrajev&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2026 16:22:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qlik.com/t5/Installing-and-Upgrading/Talend-Cloud-Engine-requirements-firewall-scenarios-amp-token/m-p/2541852#M12827</guid>
      <dc:creator>ahbrajev</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-01-28T16:22:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Talend Cloud – Engine requirements, firewall scenarios &amp; token calculation</title>
      <link>https://community.qlik.com/t5/Installing-and-Upgrading/Talend-Cloud-Engine-requirements-firewall-scenarios-amp-token/m-p/2541979#M12828</link>
      <description>&lt;P data-start="211" data-end="334"&gt;Since I couldn't find my answers in the documentation, I contacted support + a representant directly. Here's a summary, hope it helps someone who's as confused as I was &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P data-start="336" data-end="495"&gt;Talend Cloud always needs an Engine to run jobs. Without an Engine assigned, you basically only get development and management features – nothing executes.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P data-start="497" data-end="805"&gt;If your systems sit behind a firewall or in a private network, you’re looking at a Remote Engine, since Cloud Engines can’t reach non-public endpoints. The Remote Engine runs on a server/VM and talks outbound to Talend Cloud for orchestration and monitoring, but the execution itself happens locally.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P data-start="807" data-end="1087"&gt;Support also confirmed that if all target servers are network-reachable, it is technically possible to use a single Remote Engine, even if those servers are physically in different locations. In that setup, all processing goes through the same Engine and network path. (careful with customer privacy)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P data-start="1089" data-end="1460"&gt;That said, from a real-world architecture point of view, this is not recommended unless you really know what you’re doing. You end up routing data through one network, adding latency, coupling environments, and creating a single point of failure. For anything production-grade, splitting Remote Engines per server or environment is the safer and cleaner approach.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P data-start="1462" data-end="1547"&gt;Token usage is engine-based, and the token calculation for this model is correct.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2026 16:06:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.qlik.com/t5/Installing-and-Upgrading/Talend-Cloud-Engine-requirements-firewall-scenarios-amp-token/m-p/2541979#M12828</guid>
      <dc:creator>ahbrajev</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-01-29T16:06:49Z</dc:date>
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