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ashok1203
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Need to run the Nprinting 17 task after completion of QMC Task

Hi,

Is there a way to trigger a task in Nprinting Version: 17.0.2.0 after completion of a QVW task in QMC like it was done in Nprinting 16.Can anyone please help me on this.

Thanks,

Ashok

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Lech_Miszkiewicz
Honored Contributor III

Re: Need to run the Nprinting 17 task after completion of QMC Task

Hi,

I don't think version 17,0,2,0 had API's.

I suggest you upgrade your environment and use below mentioned solution.

Re: nprinting 17 task reload after QMC task

cheers

Lech

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Lech_Miszkiewicz
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Re: Need to run the Nprinting 17 task after completion of QMC Task

BTW - there is no other way to achieve this, so eventually you will have to upgrade anyway

cheers Lech
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ashok1203
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Re: Need to run the Nprinting 17 task after completion of QMC Task

Thanks Lech for your response, If we upgrade the Nprinting to latest version is this supports Qlik 12.02040 SR5 version.

Apart from this method, Did we have any other possible way to achieve this.

Lech_Miszkiewicz
Honored Contributor III

Re: Need to run the Nprinting 17 task after completion of QMC Task

1. Using API is the only way of achieving this.

Api reference is here https://help.qlik.com/en-US/nprinting/November2017/Content/Extending/Intro-Extending.htm

2. BTW - make yourself friend with this website - it will answer 99% of your questions --> https://help.qlik.com/

3. Re version?

I am not super familiar with the versions however you need to meet following requirements

https://help.qlik.com/en-US/nprinting/November2017/Content/DeployingQVNprinting/System-requirements_...

  • QlikView Desktop 11.20 SR15 or higher and 12.00 SR5 are supported.
  • QlikView Desktop 12.10 SR1 or higher is supported starting from Qlik NPrinting 17.2.2 and includes On-Demand reports.
  • QlikView Desktop Personal Edition is not supported.

QlikView Desktop is required on the Qlik NPrinting engine computer, even if QlikView Server Enterprise Edition or Small Business Edition is also installed on that server. QlikView Server and QlikView Desktop must be the exact same version, including the release number.

QlikView Desktop must be installed locally on the same physical or virtual computer as the Qlik NPrinting engine.

QlikView Desktop is not required if you are only connecting to Qlik Sense apps.

cheers Lech
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eightieschild
New Contributor III

Re: Need to run the Nprinting 17 task after completion of QMC Task

Hi Ashokkumar

An alternative to API triggered events is to use a 'polling' trigger in NPrinting that looks at Qlik variables in your app to represent the last reload:

vLastReload=ReloadTime()

and a time 5 minutes ago or whatever tolerance you want - could be every hour if the report doesn't need to arrive immediately after the reload:

vFiveMinsAgo=Timestamp(Now()-5/(24*60))

I used a SET statement in a Qlik Sense load script so that NPrinting would evaluate these vars at NP report time rather than at QS reload time, which is what a LET statement would do.

Next, set up a Condition in NPrinting that says:

vLastReload >= vFiveMinsAgo is True


Then set up a Publish Task trigger to run every 5 minutes (or other tolerance if different as per above) with the condition applied. If the condition is False the report won't run and no significant resources are used. If the app has been reloaded and the condition is True, the report runs.

I've used this successfully for a NPrinting report using Qlik Sense v3.2.5 and NP Sept 2017, but should be similar for Qlikview and I can't think much has changed with variables since NP v17.0.2.0? Of course I could be wrong about the latter as that's a pretty old version now

Let me know if this works for you.

BR

Chris

Lech_Miszkiewicz
Honored Contributor III

Re: Need to run the Nprinting 17 task after completion of QMC Task

‌very good point Chris And it is a good solution if you have say few publish tasks.

THe only problem is when you have a lot of them (say 100-300). Then throttleing such solution will be difficult and resource consuming

regardles for small deployment your solution i simpler an better!

thanks

cheers Lech
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eightieschild
New Contributor III

Re: Need to run the Nprinting 17 task after completion of QMC Task

Hi Lech

Admittedly it might not scale well if there are 100's or 1000's of dependent reports like this, but we have over 1,000 apps in our Qlik Sense site, over 100 reload tasks but only a handful that need dependent reports sent out, so it works well. Most reports are sent on an independent schedule.

Of course this example suggests a 5 minute 'poll' resulting in 288 triggers/day, but if the tolerance for firing the report is longer, say within 30mins of the data reload, this needs only 48 poll triggers/day.

To give an idea of the resources involved, using a condition only fires the trigger event and a check of the condition, which is minimal in terms of resources - takes less than a second on our site:

2017-11-27_08-45-48.jpg

Cheers

Chris

Lech_Miszkiewicz
Honored Contributor III

Re: Need to run the Nprinting 17 task after completion of QMC Task

No worries - and like i said this is a great idea and i am not questioning this... My concern was around numbers of reports which require this kind of dependency - and as you pointed 1-2, few... maybe 20 is not a problem..

I was talking rather about 100 publish tasks which can require 5 min pulling frequency to check condition - then it becomes sort of heavy.

...but to be honest - I like your idea better then API solution!!!


Cheers and Thanks

Lech

cheers Lech
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eightieschild
New Contributor III

Re: Need to run the Nprinting 17 task after completion of QMC Task

Hi Lech

I think we're agreeing

100's of dependent reports - go the API route, which is more resource efficient.

10's of dependent reports - consider a polling trigger, which is easier to implement.

Cheers

Chris

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