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amien
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NTFS issue

i have an NTFS issue .. i have a user account that has full control over the folder and doesnt inherit rights.

when i user 'everyone' on that folder, i see a document, when i use the user acount (with the same rights) than i dont see the document. How can this be?

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NTFS issue

Dont know if it helps but i experienced the same initially, set the rights to full control for 15 minutes then back to the rights you like to set.

Worked for me

MVP
MVP

NTFS issue

Hello Amien,

If the user belongs to a group with different permissions the most restrictive would apply. Besides, if the user belongs to a group that has been granted with new permissions, the user needs to log on to the domain so it can take full membership rights according to his groups.

Hope that helps.

amien
Valued Contributor

NTFS issue

@Alex .. i have reset the QV server .. so that should fix the 15 min interval

@Miguel

do you mean .. if the user belongs to two different groups, that the most restrictive would apply?

i'm not adding a group to NTFS .. i'm adding a single user. does that user also need to logout/login? i assumped that this was not nececerry because i'm using login2.htm as login. so, 'm not logged in under windows at the user that i'm added

MVP
MVP

NTFS issue


Amien wrote:do you mean .. if the user belongs to two different groups, that the most restrictive would apply?


That's exactly how Windows NTFS permissions works. It's usually a good practice when sharing a resource (I don't know if this applies here) leave "Full Control" to Everyone in the Shared permissions, because they will not conflict with NTFS permissions and if group membership is accordingly set for every user, and because of this "the most restrictive applies" rule, you usually don't have to take care. Obviously, this is the optimal situation.

Regarding login/logout I meant should your user had been added as member of any group. And the user must log on to the Domain, not the Accesspoint, so it's not this case.

Anyway, you can check effective permissions on any given folder or file right clicking on it, selecting Properties, Security, Advanced button, "Effective Permissions" tab, and selecting the user. If the user has full control there (or enough permissions to get to the file) then check that the folder, if shared, has again at least the same permissions for that user when he accesses remotely.

If all the above fails, try logging on the computer where the files are to make sure that user can get to that folder and open the document. If everything goes fine, then you will have to check your QlikView Server permissions.

By the way, does this happens to any other user?

Hope that helps.

amien
Valued Contributor

NTFS issue

Anyway, you can check effective permissions on any given folder or file right clicking on it, selecting Properties, Security, Advanced button, "Effective Permissions" tab, and selecting the user. If the user has full control there (or enough permissions to get to the file) then check that the folder, if shared, has again at least the same permissions for that user when he accesses remotely.

i'm giving rights to folders, when i place a QVW into the upper folder, where access is 'everyone', that QVW will be shown in accesspoint.

when i use effective permissions one folder lower (with not everyone), the user has allmost all rights (read,write,list etc) except full control

btw .. when i log into accesspoint under the account with login2.htm .. it will show DOMAIN\USER .. but when i fill that same DOMAIN\USER in security options, than it will be translated to username@domain.local . that is not a problem?

amien
Valued Contributor

NTFS issue

ok . i logged into the account itself ..

the location that i need i can access using a F: drive (mapped) .. but when i use the \\ location .. i will get an access denied.

my qlikview root folder is set to \\

how can it be that the mapped drive has access .. but the \\ folder not? its the same location

amien
Valued Contributor

NTFS issue

\\ is blocked with a reason .. i have \\ in the root folder for qlikview .. when i map that location .. QEMC wont see that drive Smiley Sad

i dont need to disable UAC right?

MVP
MVP

NTFS issue

Hello,

If the path starts with \\ means that it's a shared folder. Permissions for shared folders are different than NTFS permissions. But in any case, the most restrictive of both will always apply. So go to the shared folder properties, Sharing tab, Advanced Sharing, (Win 2008) and check that permissions are fine and the number of simultaneous users is enough.

Apart from that, if permissions are inherited that should work, but if permissions were set to that specific folder (and not the parents) the user may not be able to get through the path.

Hope that helps.

amien
Valued Contributor

NTFS issue

So go to the shared folder properties, Sharing tab, Advanced Sharing, (Win 2008) and check that permissions are fine and the number of simultaneous users is enough.

i did that from administrator account. the user that i need has all the rights. When i login with the user that i need, it says access denied, because \\ locations are generaly blocked. Can only be access using a mapped drive

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