8 Replies Latest reply: Feb 23, 2010 5:34 PM by John Witherspoon RSS

    On what basis point has been provided for the members of the posts!

      Hi All,

      I have been having this doubt from such a long time and finally putting it today. I want to know on what basis the post points has been given to the users. So many times i have seen though the user has not posted the right answer they used to get the points. And some times for the right answer they get the less post points.

      I am one the member from top 25 but till now i don't know on what basis they calculate. If some one can tell how they are giving the points it will be easy for us to judge our self. It will defiently motivate everyone in this community to become one of the tops.

      Wishing everyone all the best!

      Thanks and Regards,

      Rikab

        • On what basis point has been provided for the members of the posts!
          Neil Miller

          The post points are mostly based on replies. Any message gets 1 point. If someone replies to it, you get 6 more points for each reply. If someone replies to a post once, it has 7 points. Two replies would get you 13 (I think).

          The ranking does not seem to be completely based on points, but I'm not sure exactly how it works.

          • On what basis point has been provided for the members of the posts!
            Rob Wunderlich

            You also get points for contributing to the wiki,

            -Rob

              • On what basis point has been provided for the members of the posts!
                Rakesh Mehta

                So to become one of the top contributor all one has to do is ask 200-300 very simple questions like - how to load data from qvd files, or what is qlikview, or how to install qlikview, etc. I am sure he/she would get atleast 2 or 3 replies and would become top contributor all of sudden.

                To me these points don't make sense, but what else can there be? QlikTech cannot check each and every response and give points.

                  • On what basis point has been provided for the members of the posts!
                    John Witherspoon

                     


                    Rakesh wrote:So to become one of the top contributor all one has to do is ask 200-300 very simple questions like - how to load data from qvd files, or what is qlikview, or how to install qlikview, etc. I am sure he/she would get atleast 2 or 3 replies and would become top contributor all of sudden.
                    To me these points don't make sense, but what else can there be? QlikTech cannot check each and every response and give points.


                    Yes, it is very easy to inflate your points if you wished, and question askers tend to get more points than question aswerers, because questions get more replies than answers. And having your answer selected as the correct one doesn't seem to add any points. Writing a bunch of useless and incorrect posts for the wiki would give you lots of points while making it harder for people to find actual good information. For that matter, I suspect you get points for each friend you add, which may be one reason Jason Long has so many points, since he's automatically the friend of everyone. I also suspect you get points for uploading files to the Share QlikViews. I suspect the more the better, no matter how useless. So yes, the system is easily gamed in ways that detract from the community instead of adding to it. Good thing we seem to have a good, responsible community.

                    So the points mean nothing. They are no more of an indicator of your contributions than the old post counts, and perhaps even LESS of an indicator. I try to ignore them. I don't need an artificial number to tell me what to think of someone's contributions. I can form my own opinions. I encourage everyone else to do the same.

                      • On what basis point has been provided for the members of the posts!
                        Rakesh Mehta

                        Well said John. Here are your 6 points. :-)

                        I learn by giving others solution and that's what more important for me than worthless points.
                        On the same subject I think QlikTech should keep WiKi posts cleaned up somehow.

                        We have a great community here, and let's keep it that way.

                          • On what basis point has been provided for the members of the posts!
                            Community Administrator

                            Hey guys,

                            Sorry for the ambiguity around posts and points, I will try to explain how things are currently calculated, and as many of the contributors on this thread are some of our more involved members, I'd like to hear your suggestions as to how we best use this system.

                            • Top 10/25/50 Member, etc... - This measure is based solely on post count as compared to other users. The only other way to sort by "rank" is to create levels (i.e. 0-25 posts is a "New User".....500+ "Super User", etc). If you find that this measure of a member's influence is better than the current one, I invite your comments below and we will definitely consider it.
                            • Points: Please see the table below to see how user points are currently tabluated:



                              Unfortunately, the way these points systems work, they benefit the "askers" much more than the "answerers". I've tried to provide those that have verified answers with a high amount of points. Once again, any suggestions or comments are welcome.

                            And as for Rakesh's point:


                            Rakesh wrote:
                            On the same subject I think QlikTech should keep WiKi posts cleaned up somehow.<div></div>


                            We are considering switching from a wiki to a documentation section, since we don't have the resources necesary to properly maintain the wiki.

                            Your thoughts and comments are welcomed, and thanks again for all of your participation and contribution to QlikCommunity!

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                                Rakesh Mehta

                                Hi Jason,

                                Thanks for your response and clarifying most of the points.

                                Regarding Wiki section and resources at QlikTech, you can pick some (3-4) of the valuable contributors on this forum and ask them to be volunteer for a screener group, to keep Wikis / qv share cleaned somehow. Something like, people in this group gets notified if a new Wiki or shared qv is posted or changed. One of them can go and approve / reject or merge info with other Wiki, based on the contents and usefulness of it, documenting the decision reason. Just a thought.

                                 

                                • On what basis point has been provided for the members of the posts!
                                  John Witherspoon

                                  Well, some of my guesses were right. Some, like not getting points for a verified answer, were dead wrong. At least we know what's going on now. Thanks, Jason.

                                  And no, I don't really have any better suggestions than what you're doing. Some forums allow others to rate posts as their way of tracking "reputation", but I don't think that approach ends up any better. I think efforts like this are generally doomed from the start. It is almost impossible to automatically quantify something like "contribution to the community", at least in a way that isn't easily gamed or can cause hard feelings.

                                  If I were in charge of a community, I don't think I would even try. I don't think this sort of "information" is very helpful, even if you could come up with the perfect system. If an answer is right, it's right. It doesn't matter if it came from a long time and respected contributor, or if it is someone's first post. And while I could be wrong, I doubt that anyone is posting on the forum specifically to see their points go up, and if they are, that makes me fear for the forum a bit. It isn't a video game where you try to rack up the most points. We're here to help each other. That's what's important.