Q&A with Qlik: Qlik Cloud Data Integrations

[Troy_Raney]

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• Qlik Cloud Data Integrations

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Hello, everyone. Thank you so much for joining
Welcome to Q And A with Qlik.
Today's topic is Qlik Cloud Data Integration.
My name's Troy Raney.
I help put together webinars and videos like this one.
We've got a really excellent expert panel for you today, and I'll just pass around. Let everyone quickly introduce themselves. How about you, Antoine?
Hey? Hi, everybody! I'm Antoine. I'm based in France. I'm a I'm a product manager for Qlik Cloud Data Integration, especially focusing on transformations.
Fantastic. Thank you, Brian.
Hi, everyone. Brian Jones, based in Austin, Texas, and I manage the pre-sales, analytics, data, architects, team.
Great
Damien.
Amy networks, principal analytics, data architect, also on Brian's team. Based out of Dallas, Texas.
Awesome, and Dinesh.
Hey? This is Dinesh, based on Canada.
I'm from a technical adoption specialist team with Qlik support.
Fantastic, Manuel.
Hi, everyone. Manuel Salgado here based out of Houston, Texas, analytics and architect pre-sales.
Wonderful! And Ola.
Hi, Ola Mayer. I'm a head of Qlik Cloud Data Movement and I'm based in Boston area.
That's awesome.
Alright. We've had a few
questions already submitted, so we'll kick it off with the first one:
Can Qlik Cloud Data Integrations be used to generate QVD Files for use and Qlik Sense?
So yes. Qlik Cloud Data Integration does support writing to QVD files.
It supports it with the option of building data pipelines not supported for the application use case. It's it is supported for the with the for the data. Pipeline use case when you select it.
That's great. Thank you.
Next question:
What is the benefit of Data Integration versus SQL Server,Direct Access Gateway That queries the database directly in a load script? Who wants it?
I'd say a primary benefit is the ability to add low code, repeatable transformation, and no code data marks that can be used both with a SQL server target and any other data platform target so essentially flexibility and hedging your bet so that you can add other uses for the data that you're you're pulling in and transforming.
Thank you. That's great. Next question:
We load multiple DB tables in Qlik via Direct Access Gateway
and save into QVD for reference and subsequent loads. Should we think about converting these into Data Integration?
I'll take that one as well. It really depends on several factors. If you have a QVD estate, it's well established, and it's really serving the purposes you need may want to leave it alone for the time being.
QVDs allow data sets to be cached reducing egress charges against your standard cloud data warehouse platforms.
However, if you are building new and multipurpose data pipelines, QCD. Allows them to be built rAPIdly and in a highly reusable manner, due to the use of automated transformation logic.
The caching benefits of QVDs could still be leveraged by sourcing them from highly transformed data sets built by QCD.
Great. And these are great questions. One question just came in: what is a data lake, I guess, for people who are little unfamiliar with the concept of data. Lake House. data lakes, data warehouses. Who wants to address that from a high level?
I'll chime in. It's kind of a centralized repository. We allow you to just data into either structured, unstructured data, usually using some kind of commodity storage or cloud storage. A lot of times you'll see some kind of
federated layer layer on top, such as Delta. This being used to. Basically allow you to do transformations and store data into a more structured data warehouse mark as well.
One of the common principles of it is that you're you're putting data structured, non structured in this lake without really knowing quite how it's going to be used later down the road. So we like to say it's schema on. Read. So you add schema, and you utilize it. Once you have a used case for it rather than a warehouse where there's more structure upfront. And you're really doing that structure ahead of time.
And I would add also the if you look at it from the evolution perspective, the timeline right warehouses came first. You had to know the scheme of everything before data could go in. Then that became too rigid. Then we went to Lake Lakes, right? Which means you don't need to know anything about the scheme out when you put it in the lake, but then you have to figure it out as you read the data. Now we have the Data Lake House which is trying to combine. You know the best of both of those worlds right where you can have structure queries, but also have on structured data available to supplement that information. So it's it goes along a timeline evolutionary timeline for data management.
Thank you so much. Next question: Does Data Integration leverage the Data Gateway? Or does it use an alternate connection?
I'll take this question. So there in Qlik Cloud, there are types of Gateways, the gate, Direct Access Gateway that is using analytics and the purpose of this Gateway, like by definition, it access directly from the cloud, via reversity or tunnel pulls data into Qlik memory and into the either QVDs or in directly into report
versus for Data Integration. There is what's called Data Gateway for Data Movement.
And this is exactly in the name. It is. If that Gateway is used to to access data behind the firewall, to move data from the source
to the destination.
without moving it through. Qlik Cloud. So the the Gateway exist in both walls are just different types and different use cases.
And also just a quick adding.
they both run on different operating systems as well. The Direct Access runs on the windows. OS. And the data moment Gateway runs on the Linux version.
Great appreciate that. Next question: Security features available for Qlik for cloud-based databases? Who wants to address security. I know that's a common question when it comes to cloud offerings.
So I guess I'll start with that one. But of course security has many dimensions. Right? So if something's not answered, of course you can. You can retype the question or ask for clarification. But we the in the in the main way, you know. We look at it as securing data, you know, in transit, on, in, in when it's at rest. Right?
From the perspective of Data Movement Data Integration. The day we secure data by leveraging the transfer layer security. SSL, which is usually provided by the driver. So we leverage the drivers of the of the systems that we're connecting to. To provide that security. And trans, as the data has been transferred
right? Or the APIs, if it's a if it's a source or destination that that uses an API, we leverage https under the rest based APIs for that.
That that
I'll mention that if there's anything else I security is a broad topic. So please add, ask any clarifications if that's what you're looking for, or something else.
Great. Yeah, like you said, it's a broad topic, but very secure.
Next question: is it possible to read load .SAV files in Qlik Cloud?
No, I don't believe we support it today.
Okay, that's fair.
But it brings up an opportunity for me to discuss Ideation. There's a page on Qlik community called Ideation. You can find it under…Gosh! Where is it?
Support – Ideation. And here's where you can recommend suggestions
for feature improvements, feature requests and see what other people have also suggested and upvote other things. So I definitely recommend checking out
Ideation. And I'll post that link. But that's a good idea for Ideation. Okay. Next question:
When you are planning a full integration of Qlik Data Integration with Talend? Oh, sounds like good opportunity to plug Qlik Connect.
Antoine? Do you want to start with all the work you're doing?
Yes, exactly so.
So. There are many answers, many layers to these questions. I'll start with one thing that we've already released.
We've taken the no code, graphical design experience that we had in Talend pipeline designer. That's a web UI, and you drag and drop boxes, wire them together, and you compose a data transformation. U, using this easy-to-use interface.
And we've just added that in QCDI to create your transformations.
So you were able to do data or solutions using sequel custom, secret commands. You can now, decide whether you want to use to put into your sequel or use what we call now transformation of flows using the transformation of flow designers that comes from Talend.
This is available in QDI right now for you to use.
That's one part of the Intel.
Do you want to continue Ola?
Sure from another part of Data Integration is around Data Movement where we are working on integrating stage connectivity into Qlik Cloud.
So this it will give us a an opportunity to expand our support Matrix
substantially. These connectors that today are, is it supported by stage.
And I I'll add something else that's part of our roadmap as well. So
for some of you who may be Talend customers and Qlik customers. So we are working on integrating. TMC, the Talend management console that you use to operate your jobs, monitor all your workloads and so on.
TMC will be accessible from Qlik Cloud. So you will have a Direct Access, and everything in one single pane of glass, which is your Qlik Cloud and your session concert.
Very cool. I see a topic that's kind of
next question. That's kind of on the same topic. What are the suggested use? Cases for Talend versus Qlik Cloud Data Integration?
I could take that.
Talend really excels at meeting complex transformation and integration in the area of ETL data quality and application integration, using rest API messaging and things like that. Supports many data sources and formats, including Parkro Json, relational databases, APIs, cloud apps, and many more.
And really, you know, to contrast that with QCD since the QCD session, QCDI really excels at streaming change data, capture Sas data, pipelines and data, more automation using. Push down ELT transformation on your standard data warehouse platform. So I think, at the highest level. Think of Talend as being predominantly ETL based, and QCDI being ELT based.
Appreciate that. I wanted to address a question that came in a little while ago. I have created a line chart in Qlik Sense and use the same object in Qlik NPrinting HTML report template, then the output is not visible. Clearly, that's little bit off topic. I don't know if anybody wants to address that, or if we can just recommend perhaps creating a support case or reaching out to somebody on our Qlik support forums.
I don't think this is the right audience, like we are not there down the analytics questions.
Yeah, we've collected a lot of experts here to talk about Data Integrations. However.
there is a really great resource on Qlik community, over here on Qlik community, you go to the Qlik forums, analytics and post a question there, probably along Qlik, NPrinting or reporting service, depending on what would be most appropriate.
And we've got you know, 220,000 members on Qlik community that are very active. So
you'd probably find a good solution there if you reach out. Okay, next question:
Currently, in Qlik Cloud, we use a Data Gateway in our load scripts to get data from our on-prem resources into Qlik Cloud. However, the Data Gateway is unstable. In other words, it often returns incomplete data for large data sets, but not small data sets.
Even though it indicates no error. Is this a known issue, or is this not something you've heard of?
Again. This is I can the product manager for this. This is a direct Qlik Cloud. This is Direct Access Gateway issue. And the product manager for that is Po Davidson.
If there isn't. But if anything, this sounds like a support issue that must be addressed so hopefully, there is a case open with that.
Thank you for addressing that. Alright moving on.
I'm currently looking to achieve real time data for my Qlik app in Qlik Cloud.
Our data is on MongoDB. And we query, this data via data views on Vimeo.
Is Data Integration the correct solution for me in this scenario?
I would I, we do have the capability to read Mongo data. However, hmm!
Not directly into a QVD at this time. And you know as a
don't know all. I've done, something that is coming to take that from our client- manage solution into the cloud so that we can make it into a QVD. But you know, we would have to store it somewhere intermediate. So we could read the data from MongoDB with change data capture; stage that data in an intermediate place, and then have that be the source for the Qlik app.
But -
So just small correction. MongoDB. Support is coming. It's not available, I think. You see, I it will be available in September.
At that point. In time you will be able, as you like, before the first question was addressing, can QCDI load data into QVDs.
This point in time you will be able to load data from MongoDB to QVDs
with the data pipeline option. Need to understand the aspects of real time here.
How? What? What would? By what is the definition of real time? How frequently you want to do that? Then, That the consideration.
Yeah. That sounds like there's definitely a pathway there. Great. Thank you.
Next question:
Where can one find Qlik Talend material dealing with or addressing use cases in climate or meteorology, space or vertical? I feel like I've even seen some demo apps around
weather and climate. But -
Yeah, there's definitely analytics side applications that that deal with those. I mean.
Yeah, you. I, I'm not aware of any Data Integration customers that that capture and transform that kind of data. So you may have the wrong audience for this.
But it's all data, right? It's all possible.
Yeah. Yeah, it's.
Of frequency of a date, and so on. I would reach out to your contact at Qlik, to your sales, rep. Maybe you can oy on to you on that.
Yeah. Good idea. Okay. Next question:
Is it possible for us, charger and save QVD in the cloud and sharing resources with another technology?
Also. Chart. What do you mean? Sharing resources? Can this be clarified by what does it mean to share resources with other technologies?
Yeah, Qlik is very system agnostic. So we tend to work pretty well with other systems. But yeah, if you could elaborate a bit and we'll see if we can get back to that one.
Do you have any?
Do you have examples of customers in Europe that'll use Talend capabilities directly, and Qlik Cloud?
Oh, yes, yes, we do.
Question is, I don't know if we can name them if we are authorized to name them. But yes, we have customers in Europe that are already using the new transformation flows that we've talked about before transition flows, using QCI. So we have customers in Europe using it, and customers in Europe.
we'll use it soon as well.
So the answer is, yes, I'm not able to provide names.
That's great. Thank you.
Course the roadmap is on here. Anybody, any upcoming new features for Qlik Cloud in the next month or so? People always looking for that sneak peek. I don't know if we have
anybody has anything on the mind.
Plan to have like big splashes during Qlik, connect. And it's really like in, maybe we can
postpone this question till then.
Yeah.
Yeah, Qlik Connect is right around the corner, the beating of June in the States. If you're able to attend, please do. And I know we have a virtual option as well. So
definitely check that out
Next question: In QCDI, would you suspect that I would not face the same issue pulling on-prem data into Qlik Cloud that I do with the data Gateway?
The issue around incomplete large databases.
So, as I said before, first of all, the fact that you're having this problem, it's a bug that needs to be addressed.
Yeah.
Qlik. The right access Gateway should needs to be able to deal with that.
Qlik, Qlik, QCDI and analytics Gateways are also mentioned before they're designed different use cases. While the Direct Access Gateway pulls data directly into your queue. Qlik, Qlik report.
You see the eyes more focused on moving data from source to destination can be QVD.
but I will. I think you will find that that part the technology of moving data to Qvc is more restrictive from datapoint of view and sizing. So I think the best way forward is to resolve the issue that you're observing right now.
Sure. Next question, how can we show live data by using Qlik Sense? Do we have any existing approach? And that that brings up that question like, what do you define as live? But -
And again, this is not the audience like, we are not the right people to answer those questions.
But there is the thing as direct that Direct Access where sorry, no direct query and Qlik Sense.
Not the right forum to go into details as to what that entails, but it does allow you to create database directly and use that as a as a
you know the source for your report or dashboard.
And just that we could also write data into a QVD using QCD as well. So you can integrate some sources into QVDs that you can pull into Qlik Sense.
So, if not real time, very close to it. So it's all about exactly how often you need that to be updated.
Yeah. The qv, this is a min the latency, the shortest one. So
if that works and we have, we can, you know, have the dashboard report get updated every min, or the other option is to query that database directly, with a direct query.
Okay. Next question: like in Power BI, Pie or donut chart, is possible to display the value and share of the measure without clicking on or hovering over the pie or donut chart. Is that possible in Qlik Sense?
Again, we're not quite experts on the analytic side. But I would definitely say that:
Yes. Pie and donut chart in Qlik Sense is totally possible to show data without having to hover or click on it. They have a lot of display options there. I realize that's kind of high level. But anyone want to add anything to that? Or should we just move on.
Maybe they can. They can ask the question in the in the community forum. I'm sure they'll get an answer.
Good point. Thank you, Antoine.
Is it possible to move QVDs from different tenants?
Alright. So this is definitely a Qlik Cloud data question, but not quite Data Integrations.
Yeah.
I know there is a way to move the files between directories. But I'm again. This is something that should be addressed by the management team.
Yeah, reach out to your account, manager. I know we have
solutions available and depending on like; when you need those moved, or if you just need the data to be read from different tenants. There's different solutions available
for sure.
Okay, which QDI features are included in Qlik Sense
SaaS user model.
So looking, When Qlik Sense SaaS is often referred to now as just Qlik Cloud.
So anyone want to talk about the features that are available and Qlik
Cloud Data Integrations?
It. It depends on what tier you are on. If you're Enterprise tier, you should have access pretty much to everything. If you're on lower tiers you would need. If you and you are interested in QCDI capabilities, you would need to buy licenses. Additional QCDI access licenses.
I just.
And there are also some common, you know, elements between in in the Qlik Cloud, you have, you know, Qlik Cloud Data Integration services and Qlik.
Qlik Cloud Analytic services. And you have things like the you know, the Application Automations that can be used in in both of those. You have the Catalog and the Data Cataloging, which is really a foundational service, that that services both of those things. So some of those key elements are shared across them, and they're really just different parts of the same SaaS Cloud.
And I just wanted to highlight a recent Techspert Talk where Tim Garrod went through and demonstrated a lot of the capabilities of Qlik Cloud Data Integration. So I posted a link where you can take a look at that and see what's possible and how it looks. And he definitely talks about those tiers as well. Okay, next question:
Are dynamic charts no longer available for live data?
I'm not sure if we have, and a good answer for that.
But again, the forums on Qlik community are really good resource where you can post that question.
Sorry we can't address that one.
What are the typical steps to be taken to migrate a customer from Qlik Sense Enterprise Client-Managed to Qlik Cloud in particular, can you explain how the data
should or could be sent to Qlik Cloud, and how to overcome the security, confidentiality worries of the customer's IT team?
Hello.
So let me start. But again, this, this is this is a great question for Po. They return and Direct Access Gateway. This is what Direct Access. One of the reasons. One of the reasons that direct taxes was deployed and developed is
because you can actually use the data that was create like with the Direct Access Gateways now will be supporting file as a source so files that are were generated by client managed. Qlik, essence, enterprise will be able to be read and pushed

to Qlik Cloud.
or another option is basically copying the script. If you want to just reload completely, you can copy the scripts that you, using on-prem in client-managed, environment means minor adjustments. You'd be able to run them directly into Qlik Cloud. But again, this is a full, very top, huge topic that we invested in when we released the Direct Access Gateway. Po would be the right person to address those questions.
Definitely. And next month there will be a Techspert Talks demonstration where we will outline a path for people who are looking that specific scenario to migrate from Qlik Sense Client-Managed to Qlik Cloud. So keep an eye for that.
Next question: I have a connection with PostgreSQL and I need to load it automatically from time to time. I want to know if it's possible, and if it is. How I can continue to guide myself in this regard? What are the courses where I can learn more about this in continuous classroom?
Is this again loaded to? Where is it? For, let's say to QVD. To analytics, or, let's say to Snowflake.
Well, want to take one of those scenarios? What if the target was snowflake?
If target was snowflake. What we have available today is capability of
for continuous change, data, capture of moving data from from your post or source
to the Snowflake destination using the Data Movement Gateway.
There was a question about what are the feature upcoming features for the next few months. In next few months we also, we will be adding an option of periodic loads. So we will be able to schedule this loading changes, but without continuously running. Basically, you can run this low, maybe once every 3 hours, if you prefer to do so.
Great thanks. And a comment came in from someone trying to help us out here, the comment was, QVDs can be moved from one tenant to another
by using Qlik Application Automation and platform management blocks. So I appreciate that answer for a previous question.
Next one: Is there a plan to remove the dependency on the Data Movement, Gateway or application connectors. Moving data cloud to cloud. Seems like it shouldn't need this.
So another feature, we will be launching it, announcing it. Qlik Connect will provide an option of configuration without the Gateway.
The Gateway is there to address; was there to address, to address security consideration. For example, if your destination is snowflake behind private link, you will still need the Gateway to be able to reach into private cloud. But if your all sources are in in public cloud, and all your destinations are in public cloud.
We will shortly be rolling out a configuration option without the Gateway in Qlik Cloud.
Very cool.
See. They keep asking about road map stuff, and they get small little crumbs. So next question:
Is it possible for Qlik Cloud Data Integration to ingest data from snowflake?
Yes, I'll start that one. There it is, you most typically think of Snowflake as a destination for QDI and QCDI. However, the QCDI pipeline has an onboard option to use registered data which is already in Snowflake, and you can even ingest, incrementally using a timestamp or a high watermark processing, and all the options for that
that are inside of the QCD. On-board data option.
Thank you. And one question snuck into the chat I just saw it:
Is there a way to migrate existing data pipelines from other ETL tools to Qlik Cloud, or what is the easiest way to do migration from other tools to Qlik Cloud?
I'll start with that. Just kind of to piggyback off with, the Brian was saying. We have the ability to register data. It's been ingested. So if you have existing pipelines, we can start to register, bring that data in and then start to develop a actual ingestion mechanism, whether you're using our Gateway so we could kind of do it in steps. So you don't have to continuously move everything. At one time we can start with which you already have, and then migrate you completely to using our spring. Jess.
Great thanks. Next question: are you planning generic REST API as a source for QCDI?
Yes, we do. And this is what else can say at this time.
Perfect, perfect. Next one: is there any tooling in the pipeline which will help us migrate existing solutions from Qlik Data Integration to Qlik Cloud Data Integration?
So I'm guessing we're talking about like Replicate to Cloud migrating like that.
Yeah.
I could start. I know there are migration solutions being considered for not only Replicate, but, you know, moving compose projects into
QCDI pipeline projects, but the specifics of those are still TBD. I don't know if the PM's can say more.
Yeah, we have plans to support migration from your Compose project
to QCDI and have the have them in QCDI of your automated data marts in QCDI. This
plan are still in the work, so we are not able to provide more information on that.
But maybe what we can mentioned as well is what Damian said before:
for data that you've already moved to a data platform or Snowflake, or whatever; you can still use QCDI and register this data and take it from there as well. That's also an incremental way to start using QCDI.
And I would add also for those I don't know. So QCDI can. If you're using Replicate today, QDI Replicate to move your data.
QCDI, of course, because it's we understand, Replicate; how Replicate moves the data. You can very easily register that data and then leverage the rest of the pipeline and QCDI
because in so in in a lot of cases, you're not gonna want to rebuild that plumbing from the source to the target right? Just so that you can. You know it's the same work you already did. You don't want to do that again, right? So you can leverage what you already did, and then layer on top of it the capabilities of the pipeline and QCD.
Great.
With register data.
Next question, is there a way to migrate existing pipelines? Oh, we already got that one. So they made it move, moved it over. Alright, moving on:
Where can we learn more about the details of building pipelines with transformations?
So there are many places you can use the Qlik learning portal, the new Qlik learning portal; in which you, you have a, you have a so you have a learn menu. Qlik home, page, and that's a good start, a good place to start. Sorry.
And you have; You have journeys you can follow. And this journey you can you learn, step by step out, how to use the tool, learn the concept of the tools. And you would get expertise and get certifications as well. If you want.
We also for engine workshops. And there's also the online user guide that has a lot of information in it. I would suggest you to look at that as well.
And there are also videos that are available as part of your when you log in into your Qlik tenant portal, you have an example and how to, how to video you can. You can use and learn about the features here.
Also, there's a YouTube channel that that has some useful information as well from Qlik YouTube channel.
And even Qlik community. If you get stuck on a particular issue that's not really covered in the training. Just ask a question in community. Lots of people be happy to help.
All great resources. Thank you. Next question. And these are all great questions. So please keep them coming. We'll answer as many as we can.
How does Qlik Application Automation work with Data Integration?
So I'm sorry that so currently, the there's APIs that are being exposed by the Qlik Cloud.
that integration and there’re blocks in Qlik Application Automation that you can use to call those functions things like management of tasks. Right? You know, you have landing tasks. You want to check their status run them, you know, and that, you know, start, stop that sort of thing. So those are available within key Qlik Application Automation leveraging the APIs, the rest APIs for management of QCDI.
Great. And next one looks a little specific:
When using REST API to get a list of properties from Hubspot, I can only seem to pull the default ones. But there are several more. Any idea how I can pull the additional records?
We probably need to look at the permissions of the application. API. There may be some specific scopes specifically to the private app that you'll need to add so we need to kinda understand what exactly what those objects are. And if you need to provide more privileges.
Yeah, but.
Education. API.
Before. What, in what product are we talking about? Data Integration? Are we talking about analytics?
It's a good question. But I'm assuming it's about Qlik Cloud Data Integration.
I'm not sure because it's different. So we need to clarify that.
Sure. So maybe you can reach out to on Qlik community or to Qlik support and provide some more detail and see if we can help you.
It's actually not, because right now, in data integration, don't support Hubspot.
Oh, really, I thought that was one of the sources.
Not yet.
Yeah, analytics side.
Yeah. Analytics.
Alright. Next question: in Talend, I'm having trouble connecting to salesforce using an IN query, where can I find more information about the proper format for writing queries like this?
Best place to go is the Talend studio. Help,
And you can even, you know, find the component and you'll be able to link into the manual query documentation from there, which will, which will point to those manual query options that that you would need for the Salesforce in query. And password.
Just a couple more questions left:
Is the connection different if the source is PostgreSQL On Qlik cloud, or on-prem?
Well, and in the actual endpoint you can specify. If oh, if it's a cloud, or use it when you, when you specify the actual Gateway connection. So in there there's a dropdown to say none, or you specify the cloud platform.
Okay? So it's all when you set it up in the wizard fields for that? Perfect. And last question that's been posted so far today:
When connection from Azure SQL, using OAuth, what permission do I need to configure an EnterID so that the service principle can connect and pull data to ingest in Qlik Cloud? So very specific.
And this may not be specifically for QCDI. But you'll have to go in and specify the actual certificate as well as the secret portion to be able to be able to connect, to OAuth. Have that multi authentication support. So you'll have to do that within the application. And then as we support that, then we'll be able to use that for OAuth.
Great.
I wanted to say, thank you to this excellent expert panel. You guys have
been exemplary.
Oh, we got one last question coming in under the wire. This question is for Brian.
Haha!
That's right.
Bit of a joke. But: what was it like being a founding member of Rolling Stones?
Nice. Well, it's actually it. It's quite nice, although fun. Fact. I was actually named after Brian Wilson of the Beach boys.
That my father's name just happened to be Jones.
Okay, it's
alright. Well, thank you so much to the panel, and thank you everyone for joining today. Hope you have a great rest of your afternoon.
Bye, bye, everyone.
Thank you.