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Hi,
I read that Qlikview Sense is developed a self service BI, so user can simply drag and drop to build or extend visual analytics.
Does it mean that there is no need to qlikview developer to build Dashboards using QlikSense?
Is Qliksense the next version of Qlikview v11??
Hi,
Great discussion on how QlikView and Qlik Sense fit together. I thought I add a few 'official' pieces of information from Qlik to help inform your discussion.
I hope this info helps with your discussion. Thank you for your enthusiasm!!
-Josh
Hey Suraj,
QlikSense is a new, independent product. You don't need a QlikView Developer alongside it (though you can still have them installed side-by-side).
Feel free to review the FAQ for a little more information on this.
/Sonja
Hi Suray,
For users to be able to freely create visualizations on complex data it needs a solid data model in the bottom.
There is still need to join multiple data sources, define dimensions and measures together with the business and to provide documentation.
In my personal opinion I see the Qlik Developer as an enabler of the business. You provide them with the baseline that they can freely explore.
Qlik Sense is not the next version of QlikView. It is a separate product line and the QlikView product line is still being invested into.
Hi Alexander,
Would you think that the demand for qlik developers would actually increase taking into account that many the qlikview 11.2 have to be re-writen in the front end before the support of qliktech to the aforementioned prouct ends(three years if I am not mistaken)?
Just adding to Alexander's points.
We still need someone to maintain the object repository created by Qlik Sense users. And I think we still need a developer to administer, create efficient data model, implement security and create extensions/ mashups in Qlik Sense.
I think we should embrace the change and see this as opportunity area.
Cheers,
DV
www.QlikShare.com
Hi Suray,
I think that QlikView Developers are still necessary.
Except for users that have to analize just few sources with simple data model.
Well I guess time will tell
My point is that the talent our Qlik developers are sitting on is wasted on creating charts and tables.
That is certainly something everyone should be able to do and let the Qlik developer focus on what he or she is talented at, defining the components that make up the chart such as dimensions and measure, joining several disparate data sources into a readable and understandable data model, translating the needs of the business into a actionable data model that everyone can consume.
I think we can all agree on that the bulk of time (albeit short time) in a QlikView 11 project is spent on building the data model, writing expressions and as you go re-asses the project scope since the requirements tends to be a living document together with QlikView 11 and I guess even more so with Qlik Sense since you can explore the data even faster.
Whilst Sense certainly looks nice, for me it is too early to tell what benefit I, personally, will actually get until it is a more mature product and I know what the costs are going to be.
One of the pleasures of using Qlikview is the variety and challenges of creating visuals and not being tied to just data modelling all the time. Maybe in the future we will have users who are confident in building their own front-end objects, but I fear an explosion in pie-charts and huge data tables (with exporting capabilty of course) if I was to unleash this on them at the moment! The end result would be no better than what has been achievable in Excel for years. In any case, you end up with multiple users all trying to build the same reports - invariably ending up with differing degrees of success - because their requirements are being driven by the demands of clients, management, government legislation etc. and not out of data curiosity (or data discovery if you prefer the term). Surely the idea of having pre-built reports & dashboards guarantees consistency and that brings us back to where we are now! Maybe this isn't the case in all industries, but it is in the one I am in now, and the one before, and the one before that.
What I am driving at is that self service data to the masses isn't new, and in my experience regularly fails. The discovery of data patterns belongs to the low pool of creative users in a business - the business analysts, data modellers/developers and statisticians. Most of whom are already using Qlikview or an alternative product already.
Recently at a Qlik event, we were informed that support for Qlikview will be at "least 3 years". This will likely extend, I would expect, however it does suggest they at least have an end-date envisaged. It will be interesting to see how Sense performs in the BI market over the coming years.
Hi,
Great discussion on how QlikView and Qlik Sense fit together. I thought I add a few 'official' pieces of information from Qlik to help inform your discussion.
I hope this info helps with your discussion. Thank you for your enthusiasm!!
-Josh
Thanks for clarifying those points, Josh, and it is good to hear Qlikview will continue.