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    Re: Qlikview Sense x Tableau

    Edson martins

      Michael Tarallo

       

      can you help me????

        • Re: Qlikview Sense x Tableau
          Michael Tarallo

          Hello Edson, what exactly would you like help with? I'd be happy to assist.

           

          Mike

            • Re: Qlikview Sense x Tableau
              Edson martins

              What is the positive and negative Qlikview SENSE and Tableau. I think that trust comparison is Qlikview SENSE x Tableau right?

                • Re: Qlikview Sense x Tableau
                  Michael Tarallo

                  Hello Edson - Qlik has 2 products:

                   

                  QlikView and Qlik Sense.

                   

                  QlikView is our proven flagship product which can deliver custom BI applications, guided analytics and data visualization capabilities along with the components to scale and manage a BI environment.

                   

                  Qlik Sense is our new vision for the next generation of Data Discovery and Self-Service Data  Visualization. It to provides data analysis capabilities similar to QlikView but uses a different paradigm for development, design and deployment. It also lends itself to the most novice of users, anyone can use it. I am presenting our weekly getting started Webinar this Thursday at 2 PM EST - please register if you would like to learn more:

                   

                  Getting started with Qlik Sense Desktop

                   

                  In regards to Qlik Sense vs. Tableau - I would suggest you talk to one of our team members so we can identify your needs and fit. You should also contact Tableau and inquire with them, so they can give you a fair and balanced opinion.

                   

                  Someone should contact you shortly.

                   

                  Regards,

                   

                  Mike Tarallo

                  Qlik

              • Re: Qlikview Sense x Tableau

                Qlik Sense is same as Tableau Desktop..

                 

                I guess Qlikview need to crack the Tableau market.. giving same look & feel

                  • Re: Qlikview Sense x Tableau
                    Michael Tarallo

                    Hi Syed  - et al, - just some small corrections:

                     

                    Qlik Sense is the name of the new product line that contains:

                     

                    • Qlik Sense Desktop - local desktop / workstation data visualization and discovery - which is free and provides unrestricted data access, design, storytelling and analytical features that anyone can use very easily.

                    • Qlik Sense Platform - all of the above, including online server - licensed by token usage not server, provides web based design and discovery, mobile, security, management, governance, APIs.

                    • Qlik Sense Cloud Sharing (Beta) (part of the Qlik Sense Cloud services offering) - at the moment is free so those using Qlik Sense Desktop can share their insights securely online with others

                     

                    Also please note that Qlik Sense and QlikView are not SQL query based tools - nor do they use a cache, so technically speaking they are not really the same as Tableau. They bring data into an in-memory index that allow extremely fast response times due to a patented indexing processes and compression. There is also an option to directly query data for Big Data and other real-time analysis needs. (Direct Discovery) - this combined with the associated nature and the power of green, white and shades of gray and global smart search capabilities really make Qlik products unique and stand on their own.

                     

                    If you are interested - you may want to check out these additional bits of information:

                     

                     

                    Main video library:  New to Qlik Sense Videos


                    I encourage anyone interested in selecting a product for data visualization and BI, perform your due diligence of the products and company to see if the product(s) meet your organization's needs.

                     

                    Please mark the appropriate replies as helpful / correct so our team and other members know that your question(s) has been answered to your satisfaction.

                     

                    Kind Regards,

                     

                    Mike

                    Qlik

                  • Re: Qlikview Sense x Tableau

                    I read somewhere that QlikView has an advantage over Tableau because it is able to receive and manage data from more sources than Tableau. For example, Tableau may be able to manage 3 data sources tops, then it becomes sloppy (not sure if it supports more data sources though), while QlikView is able to manage  10, if I recall correctly, without a problem. This also means that QlikView is able to manage high amounts of data with a great performance, while Tableau struggles to do so.

                     

                    Also, you need to do ETL tools in order to work with Tableau. With QlikView you don't.

                      • Re: Qlikview Sense x Tableau
                        Edson martins

                        First of all, tks everybody for answer

                         

                        Someone can explain for me:

                         

                        In Qlikview I have QVD and "ETL" ok?

                         

                        In Tableau I dont have QVD and ETL.

                         

                        One example that justifies this vantage the ETL (example please) and QVD.

                          • Re: Qlikview Sense x Tableau

                            Well the advantage is that you don't need an extra tool with QlikView to do ETL. But with Tableau you do.

                             

                            I also forgot about the AQL, which is patented by QlikView, that shows the associations while you're clicking (grey and white fields in QV's listboxes).

                            • Re: Qlikview Sense x Tableau
                              Michael Tarallo

                              Hi Edson,

                               

                              Another powerful capability of Qlik products is that they have a easy to learn and use scripting syntax that allows you to perform "Transformations" on data - it is ETL but not in a graphical sense. (it is not always necessary to use or write as the Wizards can also input the syntax for you) The syntax provides a robust library of methods and functions to merge, augment, define and manipulate data, including the use of variables.

                               

                              A QVD file - is a file based uncompressed in-memory representation of the Qlik in-memory index. It is not always necessary to create a QVD file - but is recommended when implementations grow and centralized storage and re-usability of common expressions, fields and other assets becomes necessary. A QVD can be used to store the data model and the data - and the used to quickly load the in-memory index of a QlikView application or Qlik Sense app. QVDs offer efficient centralized reuse and storage and loading for applications.

                               

                              Some customers - use the script to combine multiple data sources, normalize and derive the expressions and data columns and then store the data model as a single table into the QVD file. Which is then later loaded on a scheduled basis into a Qlik Sense app or QlikView application.

                               

                              ETL - whether it is from script an out-of-the-box graphical tool or a partner's solution - will always be part of BI solutions. New data is always being added, data needs to be conformed and governed - and ETL tools assist in this process.

                               

                              HTH

                               

                              Mike

                              • Re: Qlikview Sense x Tableau
                                Jaime Aguilar

                                Hi,

                                I've worked heavily with QlikView and just some personal documents with Tableau. According with what I've seen and read in other discussions I can tell you this:

                                 

                                • Tableau connects directly to data sources and executes queries on the fly, besides I think Tableau has some native connectors which in theory could make connections faster.
                                • On the other side, QlikView/QlikSense as an in-memory tool uses their own data files (QVDs) in order to have a replica of you databases and then loading into memory. It is not strictly necessary to store data into qvds before loading it in memory, however it is really useful. It seems that Tableau also has a somewhat equivalent to qvds in TDE files.
                                • QlikView has a relatively new feature called "direct connect" which lets you connect to databases live and combine it with in-memory technology. It is still in development but is a step forward for real time analysis.
                                • Tableau doesn't have a script engine or an ETL structure, however you can make some processing on the fly, like joining table or make some calculations similar to what Set Analysis does.
                                • I think in some way Qlik Sense is a response to the success that Tableau has had in order to have a tool focused on end users and in the idea of self-service BI / Data discovery,

                                 

                                regards

                              • Re: Qlikview Sense x Tableau
                                Michael Tarallo

                                Hi Eduardo,


                                You made a good point. Tableau and Qlik are fundamentally different when it comes to working with multiple heterogeneous data sources and blend the data in a visualization. (the blend part is very important)


                                To read more about how Tableau works, please read this recent blog post on Tableau website: http://www.tableausoftware.com/about/blog/2014/5/9-data-blending-tips-data14de-30845

                                 

                                The way Qlik works with multiple data sources (whether there are 3, 5, 10….30) is no different than when with one single data source. All data is equal in Qlik, there is no primary, no secondary data sets, all data can be analyzed the way it makes sense for the users to visualize and explore. This architecture allows us to work with a greater number of data sources, with large volume, without data loss in a “join” (see point #5, Tableau data blending cannot emulate a full outer join)  - while providing users with a consistent user experience and performance.


                                Hope this helps.


                                Regards,


                                Mike Tarallo

                                Qlik

                              • Re: Qlikview Sense x Tableau

                                One more difference I observed is,

                                 

                                Development Sequence in Tableau 8.2 is :

                                Create sheet -> Assemble sheets in Dash Board -> Use sheets/Dashboards in Story slide


                                Development Sequence in Qlik Sense 1.0.2 is :

                                Create all visualizations on one sheet (In a way, this is what you do in final step of tableau visualization )