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Hey guys,
i am pretty new to Qlikview, coming from BW/BO world with several BW customers.
I am struggling around with the topic of bringing BW analysis authorizations into qlikview.
I now know that QLikview have a corresponding feature to give authorizations on data level for different users.
But now that we have invested in implementing our BW analysis authorizations in the past, we want to leverage that and build one point, where the data security is defined (this should be the bw system).
I know here is min. 1 person, Yaniv Feldman, which has implemented such a thing like extracting those auths from BW.
I need more details to give a information basis for a strategic decision pro or con qlik as new BW frontend.
Could you, yaniv, or anybody which has already made such an integration give me more infos on how this could work?
Thx a lot in advance!
BR,
Tobias
Hi Tobias
We use BW traditional tools (BEx) for detailed analysis and QlikView for Dashboarding.
We chose to maintain ALL analysis authorizations for QlikView using BW as a source. This means that we required all QV users to have BW licenses and modeled the BW authorization concept within QlikView.
The reasons that we chose that were:
1. Unlike BW, QlikView can be very problematic in terms of data governance. Since we can easily manage, maintain and monitor analysis authorizations in BW - we figured that the best solution for QV is to create an exact replica of these analysis authorizations in QV (this means that you need to understand all the BW authorization table schema and extract it). All the management/maintenance work on authorizations in done in BW (RSECADMIN, PFCG etc...).
2. Creating a new model for analysis authorizations in QlikView (for example - based on Excel files) would have required us to waste valuable time on maintenance. A model of BW analysis authorizations in QlikView only needs to be refreshed/reloaded on a daily basis and it will reflect current authorizations easily.
3. Unlike BW, QlikView authorizations only allows "Flat" analysis authorizations without the possibility of Hierarchy authorizations (allow different users to see different hierarchy levels etc...). A dynamic model of BW hierarchy authorizations in QV solves this issue (we implemented it successfully)
If you have any other questions - don't hesitate to ask
Thanks
Yaniv
Hi Tobias
We use BW traditional tools (BEx) for detailed analysis and QlikView for Dashboarding.
We chose to maintain ALL analysis authorizations for QlikView using BW as a source. This means that we required all QV users to have BW licenses and modeled the BW authorization concept within QlikView.
The reasons that we chose that were:
1. Unlike BW, QlikView can be very problematic in terms of data governance. Since we can easily manage, maintain and monitor analysis authorizations in BW - we figured that the best solution for QV is to create an exact replica of these analysis authorizations in QV (this means that you need to understand all the BW authorization table schema and extract it). All the management/maintenance work on authorizations in done in BW (RSECADMIN, PFCG etc...).
2. Creating a new model for analysis authorizations in QlikView (for example - based on Excel files) would have required us to waste valuable time on maintenance. A model of BW analysis authorizations in QlikView only needs to be refreshed/reloaded on a daily basis and it will reflect current authorizations easily.
3. Unlike BW, QlikView authorizations only allows "Flat" analysis authorizations without the possibility of Hierarchy authorizations (allow different users to see different hierarchy levels etc...). A dynamic model of BW hierarchy authorizations in QV solves this issue (we implemented it successfully)
If you have any other questions - don't hesitate to ask
Thanks
Yaniv
Hi yaniv,
Thanks for your reply and the information.
I am new to sap bw and somewhat old to qlik.
Is there any document on detail Steps on this?
can you please help as I need to do a poc.
I could gather list of tables from sap bw which has user authorizations.
here what i could gather and understood.
1. we need to reload all the users data (authorizations data) into qvds first
2. and for every document, extract only those users data(authorizations data) who will need to access document.
3.define section access for these required users in qlikview
how to model authorizations data in qlik so that i can define section access for users?
kindly help.
regards
Santosh
p.s. Are you based in pune? as per records your location is shown as pune india. I am from pune india and work for pune based software company.
Hi Santosh
You generally got this right.
I didn't write any 'how-to' paper for extracting hierarchy authorizations and most chances there's no solid best-practice by Qlik.
However, I will be able to assist if you specify the exact scenario:
Which authorization concept you have in BW? (new/old)
what are the infoObjects that you want to use for the authorizations?
thanks
Yaniv
Hi,
We have 7.3 SAP BW.
I am creating POC where I need to show or demonstrate that there is seamless security between SAP BW and Qlikview.
I wish to import ‘relevant Metadata’ from sap bw in Qlikview. And using section access I can show that I don’t need to recreate authorizations in qlikview.
e.g. My plan (after reading information on the internet) is take any info object – like info cube….get all the metadata of access privileges from sap bw , extract in qlikview and add layer of section access over it to demonstrate above said case for POC
Kindly provide your help and detail guidance as I am only Qlik developer in my team and know very little about sap bw.
Regards
Santosh
Hi Santosh
First, I suggest that you work with the BW team in the organization - they will be able to provide much help
Regarding the relevant meta data, here's a really quick-rough guide -
you need to extract BW tables:
AGR_USERS - this table shows the assignment of roles to users
AGR_1251 - this table shows the authorization data within the role
After the extraction, you will need to 'Left join' the tables in the mentioned order using field AGR_NAME
This will give you a list of all BW users and their roles in BW
After that, you will need to take the relevant data (role names, authorization fields) and use them in your section access .
Thanks
Yaniv